SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 43
*The Milky Way's Faintest Star System Unveiled
Astronomers have unveiled the faintest star system known to orbit our Milky Way galaxy, Ursa Major III Unions I. This ancient and elusive star system, reported in the Astrophysical Journal, may be one of the most dark matter-dominated systems discovered, lying just 30,000 light-years away. With only about 60 stars and a mass just 16 times that of the Sun, it challenges our understanding of galaxy formation and the role of dark matter in the cosmos.
*Queensland's Bowen Orbital Spaceport Launches into Action
Australia's space industry takes a giant leap with the official opening of the Bowen Orbital Spaceport in Queensland. Set to host its inaugural launch with Gilmore Space's Ares rocket, the spaceport marks a significant milestone in the nation's commercial space endeavors. Ares, a hybrid propulsion rocket, aims to deliver payloads into low Earth orbit, signifying Australia's re-emergence as a space-launching nation.
*Southern Launch Prepares for Next Milestone in South Australia
Over in South Australia, Southern Launch is gearing up for its next test flight at the Koonibba Test Range. The upcoming mission will test groundbreaking hybrid propulsion technology using paraffin wax and liquid oxygen, which could revolutionize rocket handling. This test serves as a precursor to developing the larger SL-1 orbital launcher, highlighting the range's unique capability for both suborbital experiments and orbital launches.
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[00:00:00] This is SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 43 for broadcast on the 8th of April 2024.
[00:00:07] Coming up on SpaceTime. Discovery of the faintest known star system orbiting the Milky Way Galaxy.
[00:00:14] Queensland's Bowen Orbital Space Board officially opened for business.
[00:00:18] Meanwhile over in South Australia Southern Launch are getting ready for their next test flight.
[00:00:23] All that and more coming up on SpaceTime.
[00:00:26] Welcome to SpaceTime with Stuart Gary.
[00:00:47] Astronomers have detected an ancient star system
[00:00:50] opening around the Milky Way Galaxy which has set a new record as the faintest and lowest mass star
[00:00:56] system ever discovered. The finding reported in the astrophysical journal has been named
[00:01:02] Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 and it may well be one of the most dark matter dominated star systems
[00:01:09] ever known. Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 is located in the direction of the constellation Ursa Major
[00:01:15] the Great Bear which is also home to the Big Dipper. The studies lead author Simon Smith from
[00:01:21] the University of Victoria says that this star system or galaxy whatever it is is in our cosmic
[00:01:26] backyard relatively speaking and located just 30,000 light years away. It's escaped
[00:01:32] detection until now because of its extremely low luminosity. Observations reveal the star
[00:01:38] system's tiny it only has about 60 stars that are over 10 billion years old. It's spanning just
[00:01:45] 10 light years across and it has an extremely low mass just 16 times that of the Sun that's for
[00:01:51] the entire system making it some 15 times less massive than the faintest suspected dwarf galaxy.
[00:01:57] It was first detected in data obtained by the Union's ultraviolet near infrared optical
[00:02:03] northern survey which is conducted on the Canada France Hawaii telescope and on pan stars.
[00:02:09] The team then decided to study the star system in more detail using the Keck Observatory's deep
[00:02:14] imaging multi-object spectrometer Demos confirming that Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 is indeed a gravitationally
[00:02:21] bound system either a dwarf galaxy or a star cluster. The thing is there are so few stars
[00:02:27] in the system that one might reasonably question whether or not it's just simply a chance
[00:02:31] grouping of similar stars and that's where Keck came in. Its massive 10-meter twin telescopes
[00:02:38] and Demos spectrometer were able to determine that this was not the case. The Demos measurements
[00:02:43] clearly show that all the stars in the system are moving through space at similar velocities
[00:02:48] and appear to share similar chemistries. A tentative spread of velocities among the
[00:02:53] stars in the system supports the conclusion that Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 is in fact a dark
[00:02:58] matter dominated galaxy, a tantalizing possibility which the authors have to scrutinize with more
[00:03:04] Keck observations. The big question now is how the stars in the system manage to stay together in such
[00:03:10] a tight-knit group for so long and one possible explanation for this is that dark matter is
[00:03:16] keeping them together. Still the object's so low mass its long-term survival is surprising.
[00:03:23] See one might have reasonably expected that the harsh gravitational tidal forces of the
[00:03:27] Milky Way may well have ripped the system apart by now leaving no discernable remnant.
[00:03:33] But the very fact that the system still appears to be intact leads to two equally interesting
[00:03:38] possibilities. Either Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 is a tiny galaxy stabilized by large amounts of dark
[00:03:45] matter or it's a star cluster being observed just before its eminent demise. With a former
[00:03:51] scenario achieving direct confirmation that Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 is a faint ancient dark
[00:03:57] matter dominated satellite star system would be important as it would support a prediction in the
[00:04:02] leading theory of the universe's origin. You see under the lambda-cold dark matter model which is
[00:04:08] the preferred and accepted model for the universe right now astronomers hypothesize that when
[00:04:14] galaxies like the Milky Way first formed they created a gravitational pull during their
[00:04:19] assembly process and that attracted hundreds of satellite star systems which continue to
[00:04:24] orbit the galaxies today. The authors say this discovery could be the tip of the iceberg.
[00:04:29] It could be the first example of a new class of extremely faint stellar systems which have
[00:04:34] eluded detection until now. Conclusive evidence for the presence or lack of dark matter in Ursa
[00:04:40] Major 3 Unions 1 will be key in determining whether the star system is a dwarf galaxy
[00:04:46] or a star cluster. Until this classification becomes clear Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 will
[00:04:51] continue to have two names. The ultra-faint Milky Way galaxies are typically named after the constellation
[00:04:58] they're discovered in, in this case Ursa Major hence the name Ursa Major 3. Whereas ultra-faint
[00:05:04] star clusters are generally named after the survey project which discovered them, in this case
[00:05:09] Unions. While the star system's identity is still ambiguous Ursa Major 3 Unions 1 paves the
[00:05:15] way for a new perspective on cosmology. Smith says the discovery may challenge
[00:05:21] science's understanding of galaxy formation and perhaps even the definition of exactly what a galaxy is.
[00:05:29] This is space time. Still to come Queensland's Bowen Orbital Spaceport opened for business
[00:05:35] meanwhile over in South Australia Southern launch are getting ready for their next test flight.
[00:05:41] All that and more still to come on spacetime.
[00:05:46] Australia's first privately operated orbital space launch facility has been formally opened at Abbot
[00:06:06] Point near Bowen on the Queensland tropical Pacific coast. The complex is expected to undertake its
[00:06:12] first launch next month with the Gilmore Space Aries rocket to undertake its maiden flight. The 23
[00:06:18] metre tall 35 ton 3 stage Aries rocket is capable of launching payloads of over 300 kilograms into a
[00:06:25] 500 kilometre high low earth equatorial orbit. The Aries Block 1 launch vehicle contains a
[00:06:31] hybrid propulsion system for its first and second stages and a liquid propulsion system for its
[00:06:36] third stage. Gilmore is one of only three launch providers in the world to have their own dedicated
[00:06:42] launch sites that will ensure a constant launch cadence once the rocket successfully achieved
[00:06:47] orbit. The Bowen Orbital Spaceport will launch eastwards over the with Sundays. Aries test
[00:06:53] flight ones targeted to launch in coming weeks pending final approval and a launch permit
[00:06:58] from the Australian Space Agency. Gilmore Space CEO Adam Gilmore is predicting a bright
[00:07:03] future. He says there aren't enough rockets to take up the tens of thousands of satellites
[00:07:08] now looking for launch windows in the next five years and Aries will help close that gap.
[00:07:14] Of course in a way all this is sort of deja vu. See Australia became the third nation on earth
[00:07:21] to launch a locally built satellite from their own soil way back on November 29th 1967.
[00:07:28] The only ones to achieve the feat ahead of Australia were the Soviet Union and the United States.
[00:07:34] Back then the spacecraft launched was the weapons research establishment satellite
[00:07:37] Resat which was launched from the Womera rocket range in Outback South Australia.
[00:07:42] Womera is still there and it's still launching rockets but it's mainly used as a military test
[00:07:47] facility. But back then at the time of the Resat launch Womera was the second busiest
[00:07:52] space port in the world after Cape Canaveral. Of course that launch back in 1967 was aboard an
[00:07:58] American Redstone Sparta rocket which was developed as part of a joint Australian US-UK space project.
[00:08:05] Aries on the other hand is the first Australian made rocket specifically designed to launch
[00:08:10] commercial satellites into orbit. Only 12 other nations have their own orbit launch capability
[00:08:16] and Gilmore Space plans a series of launches with the aim of becoming Lucky 13.
[00:08:22] Of course when you think about it space is hard. It took SpaceX now the most successful launch
[00:08:27] operator in the world for launch attempts before they were able to achieve their first orbit.
[00:08:32] Aries lead mission manager Matt Kinchetti says with the spaceport now open for business and
[00:08:37] the Aries rocket fully assembled on site the countdown to launch is underway.
[00:08:42] It's been a great period for us we've kind of come through the bulk of our kind of preparations
[00:08:46] we've had pretty dedicated team up there for a couple of months now and they've been working
[00:08:49] on a variety of things the rocket's been up there undergoing a bunch of testing but probably the most
[00:08:54] kind of consequential thing that's happened up in Bowen is we've actually been approved for our
[00:08:58] launch facility license which is the first of its kind in Australia so that allows us to launch
[00:09:02] our Aries launch vehicle up into orbit and it's really the first commercial orbital launch
[00:09:07] facility license that's ever been granted in Australia. So our team up at the launch
[00:09:10] site have been working for a really long time with the Australian Space Agency to give the
[00:09:14] agency the confidence that we're capable of operating the facility and give us a really
[00:09:18] good pathway into the first launch. And at this stage is that still likely to occur this year?
[00:09:22] Yeah absolutely we're kind of starting to close in on some of those final activities
[00:09:26] unnecessary for us to get to that first launch so we're targeting over the next kind of month or
[00:09:31] so so a lot of the outstanding actions in relation to getting to that first launcher associated
[00:09:35] now with the launch vehicle obviously our facility the launch facility itself at the
[00:09:39] Bowen orbital spaceport is now ready to go so a lot of those those kind of final activities
[00:09:43] are in relation to the launch vehicle we're doing a lot of those kind of final testing
[00:09:47] activities we call them verification activities we do a lot of testing on the launch vehicle
[00:09:51] either at the subsystem level or then assembling it all together and doing though that testing at
[00:09:55] the system level and then commissioning all of the ground launch systems that are required to
[00:09:59] facilitate the launch over the coming period as well so we're in that kind of closing period
[00:10:03] now doing a lot of those final checks in preparation for the launch and then also
[00:10:07] working with the Australian Space Agency to get the we've got the launch facility
[00:10:11] license but we also need an Australian launch permit to allow us to get to
[00:10:15] that first mission so we're working very closely with the Australian Space Agency to close out a
[00:10:19] lot of those action items so exactly what is there at Bowen at the moment we've got most of our
[00:10:24] equipment that's necessary for the launch is up there at the moment so in addition to all the
[00:10:28] people the rocket itself is up there we've obviously got a variety of different areas around the
[00:10:33] Bowen orbital spaceport comprised within that is kind of the vehicle assembly building where we
[00:10:37] do a lot of those testing activities where we configure the launch vehicle for that flight
[00:10:42] and then we have in kind of adjacent to the vehicle assembly building we have what we call
[00:10:48] it's a big raceway that leads down to the launch pad and then at the end of that launch pad is what
[00:10:54] we call our ground launch system which has all a giant fluid tower which allows us to engage
[00:10:59] directly with the rocket when it's in the vertical position we have a giant transport
[00:11:03] erector which we've designed which allows us to take the rocket from the horizontal
[00:11:07] position up into the vertical position and then in addition to that we have a variety of equipment
[00:11:12] that allow us to speak with the rocket when it's either on the pad or during the mission when it's
[00:11:17] in the flight so to do that we have a launch control center which is located several kilometers away
[00:11:22] from the actual launch pad itself allowing us to be at a safe distance during the
[00:11:26] launch countdown and during the mission and that allows us to control the rocket
[00:11:30] directly from a safe distance while also making and monitoring allowing us to monitor
[00:11:35] the launch vehicle and all the systems on board the vehicle to make sure that everything is going
[00:11:39] to plan when we are kind of conducting that launch countdown. Do you have your own weather
[00:11:43] station or do you rely on bomb how does all that work? It's a bit of an interesting relationship
[00:11:47] we try and do as much as we can ourselves but obviously this is a this is a an activity that
[00:11:52] requires us to engage with a whole bunch of different stakeholders throughout industry
[00:11:56] whether they be regulators at different spaces whether it may be the bombs so we're
[00:12:00] releasing as many kind of weather stations whether radios on balloons to gather data about
[00:12:05] the environmental conditions and the weather to inform our go-no-gro criteria for the rocket
[00:12:10] obviously that's a crucial part of that final decision to launch and then in addition to that
[00:12:14] we're kind of engaging with a whole host of different stakeholders we're engaging very
[00:12:18] closely with the bomb who are providing weather prediction models that we can use to inform
[00:12:22] what days are going to be good or not so good for launch we also engage quite closely with
[00:12:26] some of the surrounding aerodromes and airports that have been collecting data for a long time so
[00:12:32] we use that data in our assessment of availability of the launch vehicle how many of the days are
[00:12:36] we expecting to have good weather conditions versus not so good weather conditions and we
[00:12:40] factor that into our assessment of a given flight safety to make sure that when we do
[00:12:44] eventually commit to that launch all of those weather conditions have been factored into
[00:12:48] the safety picture making sure that we're not opposing any risk to third parties. And tell us
[00:12:52] about the Ares rocket itself the launch pad's been specially designed for that rocket. So the
[00:12:57] rocket is the first of its kind in the world it's a three stage rocket each stage does its job and
[00:13:01] then returns back to the earth to leave the other stages to progress the space it's a new kind of
[00:13:06] technology that's never been put into orbit before so it's a hybrid rocket and that means that
[00:13:10] it has a liquid oxidizer paired with a solid fuel grain and that results in a configuration
[00:13:14] that's much less explosive much less likely to react on the pad and create explosive anomalies
[00:13:20] or anything like that makes it a lot safer and the intent of the rocket is really it's a commercial
[00:13:24] launch so it's the first of its kind to attempt to reach orbit and eventually over time will start
[00:13:29] to be servicing commercial customers commercial entities who are looking to deploy a satellite
[00:13:34] on orbit and establish their capability in space. With a hybrid system like this can you
[00:13:39] control throttle performance during the launch or you sort of like with most solid rocket
[00:13:43] engines committed to full power all the time? It depends generally we'll have a set profile
[00:13:48] that we'll look to follow so we'll generally just throttle it up to a maximum but throughout the mission
[00:13:53] we do have the ability to terminate for us at any point in time so generally speaking we'll just
[00:13:58] throttle it up to the maximum capacity that we need necessarily for that particular mission
[00:14:02] extract as much energy as we possibly can throughout the duration of the first stage or
[00:14:05] second stage burn and then there are some caveats today in terms of how the vehicle
[00:14:09] will perform over time as it uses up some of that propellants to facilitate control
[00:14:13] of the launch vehicle so there is a little bit of variability there but generally speaking
[00:14:17] we do throw it up to the maximum. What about payload capacity? How much can you lift and how high can you go?
[00:14:22] It really depends on the conditions of the day during the mission the wind conditions and what we do is
[00:14:27] the kind of wind biasing which will allow us to control the rocket at different margins. It also
[00:14:31] depends on the inclination that we're looking to hit as well so the closer you are to the
[00:14:35] equator and the closer you are to following the earth rotation the more capacity you're able
[00:14:39] to produce because you're getting an extra little boost from the earth so at the moment
[00:14:42] we're targeting quite a modest kind of payload we're looking to put up roughly 100 kilos or so
[00:14:47] to 500 kilometers for our commercial customers in the coming missions as we start to service those
[00:14:51] commercial customers and over time we've got a pretty steady growth path of performance
[00:14:56] improvements that we're looking to add to the vehicle and those performance improvements are
[00:14:59] going to address different things on the launch vehicle some of it's going to be related to
[00:15:03] reliability improving the reliability of the launch vehicle and some of it's going to be
[00:15:07] related to performance putting more mass higher up in orbit and servicing different missions
[00:15:10] about potential customers. How does what Gilmore space are doing at Bowen
[00:15:15] differ from what's happening say with Southern Launch or with Equatorial Launch Australia?
[00:15:20] Yeah so we have slightly different business models each of us are kind of targeting a
[00:15:23] different segment of the market so Gilmore Space's primary focus is on kind of developing our
[00:15:28] own launcher and launching it ourselves whereas Southern Launch and Equatorial Launch Australia
[00:15:33] are rather intending to be the service provider and the launch facility provider
[00:15:37] to overseas customers who want to launch their own launch vehicles so our business is very much
[00:15:42] more directed towards servicing the satellite customers themselves and we do that by providing
[00:15:47] a comprehensive package so that comprises of the launch facility from which you are able to
[00:15:52] launch as well as the launch vehicle as well as all of the associated services that are
[00:15:56] necessary to get a satellite up into orbit so we will support a customer through their design
[00:16:00] process and qualification process making sure that they're well equipped and ready to fly on
[00:16:05] our launch vehicle and so it's kind of an end-to-end comprehensive service for a satellite customer
[00:16:09] who really at the end of the day just wants that capability up in space on orbit addressing the
[00:16:14] problems that they're seeking to address. It sounds very much like a similar model to what
[00:16:17] Rocket Lab have with their Electron out of New Zealand. Yeah look there's certainly similarities
[00:16:21] across the industry as we do feel that there's really room for everyone at the moment
[00:16:25] there's a real bottleneck in the launch industry for people who are looking to get capability
[00:16:29] up on orbit different launchers operating from different launch sites have access to
[00:16:32] different orbits as well so there certainly seems to be room for everyone with the kind of bottlenecks
[00:16:36] that we are seeing in the industry where we're hearing reports of individuals and satellite
[00:16:41] operators who are having to wait years and years to get on to certain missions that they're looking
[00:16:45] to get on to and if we can support them in hitting those mission objectives sooner then
[00:16:49] that's great. That's Ares lead mission manager Mack and Jeddy and this is space time still to
[00:16:56] come Southern launch getting ready for their next test flight and later in the science report
[00:17:01] warnings that Australia could soon see mega droughts lasting more than 20 years
[00:17:07] all that and more coming up on space time
[00:17:26] Southern launch says its Kuhnibber test range on South Australia's air peninsula
[00:17:30] is almost ready for its next launch in just a matter of weeks the test flight will see the
[00:17:35] launch of a German Heimpulse 75 rocket which will test the new hybrid propulsion technology by
[00:17:41] combining paraffin wax and liquid oxygen resulting in a non-explosive fuel at least until you mix
[00:17:47] the two and ignite them that will revolutionize rocket handling and logistics the test flight
[00:17:52] slated for either the end of this month or early May and we'll launch to an altitude of
[00:17:56] around 50 kilometers before parachuting back to the ground where it'll be recovered for testing
[00:18:02] it's hoped the test will assist the builders developing their larger sl1 orbital launcher
[00:18:07] the Kuhnibber test range is located northwest of Sejuna and has been equipped with a transportable
[00:18:12] rocket launcher for this project the range provides space companies with the unique
[00:18:17] ability to launch and land their vehicles on the same range facility that enables them to
[00:18:23] recover their technologies and analyze the system's performance it also enables suborbital
[00:18:28] missions to the edge of space to conduct experiments and it can support the re-entry of space technology
[00:18:34] from orbit this makes Kuhnibber different from southern launchers play a new orbital launch
[00:18:38] complex at whalers way the orbital launch project near port Lincoln on the tip of the
[00:18:43] air peninsula will focus on space launches over the southern ocean aiming for polar orbits
[00:18:49] of course this won't be the first launch from the Kuhnibber test range
[00:18:52] D-WAC systems conducted a series of launches back in september 2020 a sounding rocket containing
[00:18:58] a small replica payload was slated to launch on september the 15th 2020 with a second launch
[00:19:04] on september the 19th the missions were designed to collect information to develop new electronic
[00:19:09] warfare technologies focusing on cubesats and while the first launch failed two successful
[00:19:15] launches were conducted four days later southern launch claims it's got several missions on its
[00:19:20] books to launch from the new whalers way site including the refix mission with the german
[00:19:25] space agency DLR the company says it's also a sign of memorandum of understanding with UK
[00:19:31] based space forge to use the Kuhnibber test range as a re-entry point for their spacecraft
[00:19:36] alongside a separate deal to use it as a re-entry point for a capsule undertaking
[00:19:40] pioneering medical experiments in space this spacetime
[00:20:01] and time that i take a brief look at some of the other stories making news in science this
[00:20:05] week with a science report australia could soon see mega floods lasting over 20 years
[00:20:12] that's the grim warning by scientists at the australian national university based on their
[00:20:17] latest computer modeling and worse still the bleak findings reported in the journal
[00:20:22] hydrology in earth system sciences don't include the amplifying effect of human impact on the
[00:20:27] climate since the industrial revolution the study found that 20th century droughts in southwestern
[00:20:33] and eastern australia including the marie darling basin were longer on average compared to pre-industrial
[00:20:39] times of course mega droughts would be exceptionally severe long lasting and white spread they're able
[00:20:46] to last for multiple decades even centuries the study's authors warn that if a mega drought
[00:20:51] did occur in australia today the consequences will be made even worse because of climate change
[00:20:56] as any drought would occur against a backdrop of hotter weather one of the problems with
[00:21:01] understanding protracted droughts in australia is that climate observations since the 1900s only
[00:21:07] really provide a handful of examples to work with therefore they're not representative of what could
[00:21:12] be a worst-case scenario that's possible through natural climate variations the authors think
[00:21:18] a mega drought could be occurring in australia every 150 years the researchers used multiple
[00:21:23] climate models to simulate droughts that occurred during the past millennium in order
[00:21:28] to determine how they might change in the future this includes predicting how long australian droughts
[00:21:33] could last for and how dry they could get the authors say we can reduce the impact of future
[00:21:39] mega droughts but being prepared lots of water storage good management plans and a major community
[00:21:45] support network a new study has found a strong link between osama's disease and the
[00:21:52] daily consumption of meat based and processed foods researchers at bond university came to
[00:21:58] their conclusions after examining the diets of 438 australians 108 with alzheimer's and
[00:22:04] 330 in a healthy control group a report in the journal of alzheimer's disease found that those
[00:22:10] diagnosed with alzheimer's tended to regularly eat foods such as meat pies sausages hams
[00:22:16] pizza and hamburgers they also consumed fewer fruit and vegetables things like oranges
[00:22:22] strawberries avocado capsicum cucumber carrots cabbage and spinach a new study claims that while
[00:22:29] the earliest dinosaurs experienced rapid growth rates so too did many of the other animals living
[00:22:35] alongside them the findings reported in the journal plus one examined patterns of bone tissue
[00:22:41] and fossilized leg burns of an array of animals in one of the earliest known missouzoic ecosystems
[00:22:47] found in argentina and dating back to around 231 to 229 million years ago the analysis found that most
[00:22:55] of the examined species had elevated growth rates these were more similar to modern-day mammals and
[00:23:00] birds rather than to living reptiles the findings support previous research would suggest
[00:23:06] that fast growth was an important feature for dinosaur success however since other animals
[00:23:12] were also growing fast the authors say the rapid growth is only one part of the story of the dinosaur's
[00:23:18] eventual global dominance a new survey claims that some 76 percent of people really do believe
[00:23:27] in psychic abilities tim mendham from astrian skeptic says while that may seem awfully high
[00:23:33] it should be taken with a grain of salt as the survey itself wasn't really undertaken
[00:23:38] in a truly scientific way.
[00:24:38] and those who can be bothered filling in an online survey which would probably be in those who are more
[00:24:42] inclined to have a positive view of these things and one of the issues is that the surveys still
[00:24:46] open even though they publish the results you do not do that in a survey because then people can
[00:24:52] then write in and change the results if you want to get a very skeptic to write in and say
[00:24:56] it's all rubbish you can skew the results one way or the other if you have a lot of
[00:25:00] believers if you gather everyone together they're going to fill in these forms online so yes
[00:25:04] i would suggest that the numbers you should be very cautious are very very cautious because it is
[00:25:08] only a small survey 400 doesn't seem to be there's not a lot of people for this sort of thing and
[00:25:12] that the audience is more inclined to believe these things they're not so i mean it's really
[00:25:17] as much as i like piggie pop it's quite fun this is not a survey to believe because it's so many
[00:25:23] red flags popping up all the way about this survey but you know the numbers are interesting
[00:25:27] people will quote some even the way they organize the questions is that a dodgy like when you're
[00:25:31] talking about how accurate are psychic predictions etc the options are very accurate more than accurate
[00:25:36] accurate partly accurate or not at all so in other words four of them would suggest that
[00:25:40] they were in accuracy there of some level right so the results tend to link towards being
[00:25:46] accurate because just because of the way the questions are out that's Tim Mendham from Australian skeptics
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