NASA’s Psyche spacecraft delayed // Earth’s strongest lightning // Report on Blue Origin’s crash
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NASA’s Psyche spacecraft delayed // Earth’s strongest lightning // Report on Blue Origin’s crash

The Space News Podcast. SpaceTime Series 26 Episode 121 *The launch of NASA’s Psyche spacecraft delayed again Mission managers have rescheduled the launch of NASA’s Psyche spacecraft to a metal asteroid for Thursday October 12th. *What causes Earth’s strongest lightning Scientists have found that the planet’s most powerful lightning events – known as super-bolts -- are more likely to strike, the closer a storm cloud’s electrical charging zone is to the land or ocean’s surface. *The FAA releases its report on Blue Origin’s crash and burn The US Federal Aviation Administration report into the mid-air failure which destroyed a Blue Origin New Shepherd rocket has ordered a list of 21 corrective actions which need to be undertaken before the company can fly again. *The Science Report The 2023 Nobel Prizes in Physics chemistry and Medicine awarded in Sweeden. A new study is looking at people’s attitudes to Daylight Saving The commercially available water additive that limits the reformation of plaque and tartar on dogs' teeth. Skeptics guide anti-vax disinformation. This week’s guests: This week’s talent includes: Chuan Huang from Curtin University Jim Bell Arizona State University NASA Psyche mission Image Instrument Lead Lindy Elkins-Tanton Arizona State University NASA Psyche mission Principal Investigator Maria Zuber MIT NASA Psyche mission Gravity Science Investigation Lead Henry Stone JPL NASA Psyche mission Project Manager David Oh JPL NASA Psyche mission Chief Engineer for Operations And our regular guests: Alex Zaharov-Reutt from www.techadvice.life Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics Listen to SpaceTime on your favorite podcast app with our universal listen link: https://spacetimewithstuartgary.com/listen and access show links via https://linktr.ee/biteszHQ

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This is Space Time series 26 episode, 100 and 21 for

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broadcast on the ninth of October 2023. Coming up on Space

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Time, another delay for the launch of NASA's Psyche mission

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to a metallic asteroid. Scientists examine what causes

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planet Earth's strongest lightning bolts and the FAA

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releases its report on Blue Origin's crash and burn all that

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and more. Coming up on Space Time.

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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart Gary.

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Mission managers have rescheduled the launch of NASA's

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Saki spacecraft to a metal asteroid this time for a week to

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October the 12th. The delay will allow NASA enough time to update

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the configuration of the spacecraft thrusters. NASA says

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the decision to go with a reschedule was made during a

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flight readiness review.

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It gives engineers more time to verify parameters used for the

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nitrogen coal gas thrusters that orient the spacecraft. The

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parameters required the changes after engineers concluded that

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the thrusters would be operating at warmer temperatures than what

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had originally been predicted. Operating the thrusters within

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temperature limits is essential to ensure the long term health

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of the units.

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The verification work involves running simulations and making

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adjustments to flight parameters and procedures. This delay will

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take a week from the mission's three week launch window. The

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spacecraft has daily instantaneous launch

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opportunities from October the 12th through to the 25th. That

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would allow it to fly its trajectory to the asteroid

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Psyche.

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That trajectory was revised last year when the spacecraft missed

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its original launch date of August 2022. That was because of

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software testing problems. An investigation into that delay

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uncovered significant institutional problems at the

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Jet Propulsion Laboratory which contributed to the slurp and

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which an independent review panel says has now been

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resolved.

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Still the year long delay increased mission costs from

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just under a billion dollars to some 1.2 billion. And it pushed

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back the spacecraft's arrival time of the asteroid Psyche from

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2026 to 2029. The Psyche spacecraft will fly aboard a

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SpaceX Falcon heavy rocket and launch complex 39 A at the

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Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

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The falcon heavy is made up of three falcon nine core stages,

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strapped side by side, the spacecraft will be traveling

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some 3.6 billion kilometers in order to rendezvous with a 279

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kilometer wide metal rich asteroid which is one of the

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most massive objects in the main asteroid belt between Mars and

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Jupiter 16.

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Psyche is a large m type metallic asteroid. It was

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discovered back on March the 17th, 18 52 and it's named after

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the goddess Psyche, one of the most celebrated characters of

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Greek mythology. She was known as the goddess of the soul. Her

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name meant breath of life and she was closely linked with the

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inner human world. It said her beauty rivaled that of

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Aphrodite.

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The goddess of love. The prefect 16 signifies it was the 16th

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minor planet to be discovered. It's the largest and most

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massive of the M type asteroids and one of the dozen most

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massive asteroids known. In fact, it contains about 1% of

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the total mass of the main asteroid belt.

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Historically, it was hypothesized that Psyche was the

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exposed metallic core of a small planetary body, a collision with

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another object stripped away the crust and mantle of the

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originally much larger differentiated parent body,

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which would have been around 500 kilometers in diameter. A second

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hypothesis suggests that Psyche was disrupted and then

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gravitationally re accreted into a mix of metal and silicate.

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Now, if this case is correct, Psaki may well be a candidate

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for the parent body of a class of stony iron meteorites. The

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latest hypothesis suggests that Psyche may be a differentiated

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object like ceres or vesta, but it's experienced ferro volcanism

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while cooling.

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Now, if this one's true, the model predicts that the metal

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would be highly enriched only in those regions containing relic

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volcanic centers. And this idea has been bolstered by recent

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radar observations of the asteroid. Now, scientists from

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the South West Research Institute in Boulder Colorado

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are using telescopes to observe the asteroid in infrared.

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Providing context for NASA's Psyche mission Stephanie Jarma

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using the James Webb Space telescope to look for water

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signatures on the surface of Psyche. While Anisia Arredondo

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is using some of the last data led by the stratospheric

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observatory for infrared astronomy or Sophia airborne

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telescope to study differences in Sae's composition at

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different points on its surface.

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Previous observations indicate that Saki is a dense largely

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metallic object originally thought to have been the

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leftover core of a failed planet using telescopes at different

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infrared wavelengths provides different complementary

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information as to what the asteroid really is still despite

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all the attention it's getting now, Psyche remains somewhat

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mysterious.

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That's because some of the previous observations have given

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conflicting results, for instance, showing variability in

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its surface composition in near infrared wavelengths as well as

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hence of hydration on its surface. And that's interesting

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because the web observations are designed to determine if water

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exists on Psyche surface.

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Jac says observations across the three and six micro and

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wavelength range are telling scientists if hydration is

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present either in the form of hydroxyl or as actual water. But

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of course, if they didn't find it, that wouldn't be surprising

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considering Psyche is thought to be a mostly metallic world.

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Arredondo used the Boeing 747 mounted Sophia telescope to scan

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the asteroid in the infrared as it rotated to better understand

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if Psyche really could be the remnant core of a differentiated

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proto planet Aaron DDOS says if it were, then mo impacts would

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have stripped all of the outer layers off the asteroid, leaving

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only the metallic core behind. But those same impacts could

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also lead to variability.

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And the problem here is observations indicate that

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Psyche is metal, no big surprise there, but there's not a lot of

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variation with rotation, at least not from what we can see

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in mid infrared. Of course, the thing is metallic asteroids are

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relatively rare in our solar system. And so Psyche could

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still offer unique opportunity to see inside a planet.

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However, Psyche is so unusual, it could also surprise

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scientists and suggest a different story of how solar

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system objects formed. All of the observations using different

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techniques, keep showing results that don't make sense in context

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with each other. And that's why the Psyche mission is so

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important. This report from NASA TV.

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There aren't many classes of objects left in our solar system

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that we haven't looked at up close with the spacecraft. And

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one of them that's left is the metal asteroids.

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16 Psyche is an asteroid that orbits the sun out between Mars

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and Jupiter.

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The reason that Psyche is unique is that it is metal rich.

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It's believed that it may be a remnant core of an early plane

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that was formed in the very, very earliest parts of the

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formation of the solar system.

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And after this planet started forming and this metal core

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formed inside of that, it collided with other bodies that

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then stripped off the rocky mantle leaving this core in

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place.

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This is the part of planets that we can't sample directly today.

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It's too hot.

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The pressure is too high. Our instruments would melt, can't

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drill a hole that deep in the Earth or other planets. So how

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do we study the core of our planet?

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Psyche gives us the opportunity to visit a core. The only way

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that humankind can ever do, and it would be the first metal

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object that humankind has ever visited.

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After launch, we cruise through interplanetary space for a

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number of years. First we fly by Mars for a gravity assist

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that'll slingshot us into the asteroid belt and then we're

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thrusting all the way from there to finally arriving at Psyche.

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We'll go into four orbits to collect the necessary

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measurements that we need from our three primary instruments.

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So our payload consists of a couple of images which are

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cameras that take pictures of Psyche. Also a gamma and neutron

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spectrometer, which allows us to measure the elemental

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composition of the surface of Psyche. And then a magnetometer

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which will allow us to detect any magnetic field that's left

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at Psyche.

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If Psyche still has some sort of remnant magnetic field that that

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probably tells us it really was a core. It's a strong indicator.

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We also use the radio on the spacecraft as an instrument. So

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we can map out the gravity and map out the interior structure.

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That way we're using a particular thruster technology,

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hall effect thruster technology. They operate five times more

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efficiently than normal rockets. So they use a lot less fuel and

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is what allows us to get into orbit around. This asteroid.

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Solar electric propulsion has been around for quite a while

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and it has flown before, but we are continuing going to push the

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boundaries. We're gonna have big five panel fold out solar panels

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that will provide the electricity for the thrusters

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which use as propellant, the noble gas Xenon.

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This will be the first time that hall effect thrusters are flown

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in deep space.

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Studying the evolution of a planetary body is a detective

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story.

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There's a magic to when you actually are on the launch pad

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and you say we're go for launch and you feel like singing and

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dancing and you feel like throwing up at the same time,

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let's go discover things about our solar system that we have no

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other way to do.

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I think that it's fundamental to who we are and also who we

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should be. It's an incredible opportunity to be a part of the

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team making that happen.

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And in that report from NASA TV, we heard from Psyche mission

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Image Instrument lead Jim Bell from Arizona State University

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Psyche mission, principal investigator Lindy Elkins Tanon

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from Arizona State University Psyche mission Gravity Science

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Investigation Lead Maria Zoo from the Massachusetts Institute

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Of Technology mit Psyche mission projecting manager, Henry Stone

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from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena,

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California and Psyche mission chief engineer for operations.

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David O also from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. This is

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Space Time still to come what causes Earth's strongest

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lightning and the Federal Aviation Administration releases

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its report into the crash and burn of Blue Origin's New

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Shepherd last year. All that and more still to come on Space

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Time.

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Scientists have found that the planet's most powerful lightning

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events known as super bolts are more likely to strike the closer

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the storm clouds, electrical charging zone is to the land or

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ocean's surface.

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The finding is reported in the A 's Journal Of Geophysical

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research shows how these conditions are responsible for

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super bot hot spots above some oceans and tall mountains. Super

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bolts make up less than 1% of all the Earth's lightning. But

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when they do strike, they pack a powerful punch.

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See an average lightning strike contains around 300 million

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volts but super bolts are 1000 times stronger and so they can

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cause some real major damage. The study's lead author Avi E

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Frame from the Hebrew University Of Jerusalem says, although

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super bolts only make up a very tiny percentage of all

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lightning, they represent a magnificent phenomenon.

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A 2019 report found super bolts tender cluster over the North

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East Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean Sea and the

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Altiplano in Peru and Bolivia, which is one of the tallest

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plateaus on Earth. Ephraim.

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And colleagues wanted to find out what makes these powerful

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events more likely to occur in one place rather than another.

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And their work provides the first explanation for the

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formation and distribution of super bolts over land and sea.

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Globally. Thunderstorm clouds often reach 12 to 18 kilometers

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in height and they span a wide range of temperatures.

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But for lightning to actually form a cloud meets the straddle

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the ice line, the region within the cloud where air temperature

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reaches zero °C above the freezing line in the upper

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reaches, the cloud electrification takes place and

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generates the lightning's charging zone.

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Ephraim wondered whether the changes in the freezing line

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altitude and subsequently changing zone height could

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influence the storm's ability to form super bolts. Past studies

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have already explored whether super bolt's strength could be

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affected by sea spray, by shipping lane emissions by ocean

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salinity and even by dust from the desert.

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But all those studies were limited to regional bodies of

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water and therefore could only explain part of their regional

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distribution.

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A global explanation for super bot hot spots remained elusive

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to determine what causes super bots the cluster over certain

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areas. E framing colleagues needed to know the time location

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and energy of selected lightning strikes which they obtain from a

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set of radio wave detectors.

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They use these lightning data to extract key properties from the

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storm's environment including land and water surface i

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charging zone height, cloud top and base temperatures and

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aerosol concentrations. They then look for correlations

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between each of these factors and super bolt strength,

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cleaning new insights into what causes stronger lightning.

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And what doesn't the authors found that contrary to previous

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studies, aerosols didn't have a significant effect on super bolt

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strength.

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Instead, a smaller distance between the charging zone and

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either land or water surface led to significantly more energized

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lightning storms close to the surface allow higher energy

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bolts to form because generally a shorter distance means less

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electrical resistance and therefore a higher current and a

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higher current means stronger lightning bolts.

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The three regions that experience the most super bolts,

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the North East Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean Sea and the at

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Plano all have one thing in common short gaps between

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lightning discharge zones and surfaces.

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Ephraim says the correlation was very clear and significant

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knowing that a short distance between a surface and the cloud

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's charging zone leads to more super bolts will help scientists

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determine how changes in climate could affect the occurrence of

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super bolt lightning. In the future, warmer temperatures

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could cause an increase in weaker lightning but more

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moisture in the atmosphere could counteract that.

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So the scientists think there's no definitive answer yet. Afram

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and colleagues now plan on exploring other factors that

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could be contributing to super bolt formation, things like the

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planet's magnetic field and changes to the sun's 11 year

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solar cycle.

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This is Space Time. Still to come. The FAA releases its

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report on Blue Origin's crash and burn. And later in the

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science report, the 2023 Nobel Prizes in physics, chemistry and

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medicine have been awarded in Sweden. All that and more.

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Coming up on SpaceTime.

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The US Federal Aviation Administration report into the

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midair failure which destroyed a Blue Origin New Shepherd rocket

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has ordered a list of 21 corrective actions which need to

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be undertaken before the company can fly again.

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Command engine start two, one confirms the Shepherd has

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cleared the and the FAA found that the incident on September

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the 12th last year was caused by a faulty be three engine nozzle

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due to higher than expected engine operating temperatures.

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This caused the New Shepherd launch vehicle to fail a minute

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and three seconds after left off just as it was entering Max Q.

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The point of maximum dynamic pressure on the vehicle at this

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point, the rocket briefly begins throttling back in order to even

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out stresses on the vehicle and then it throttles up again. And

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it was around this point that the New Shepherd launch vehicle

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failed at an altitude of around 28 ft.

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The en three engine throttled up as we're going to push up to Max

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Q again. That's the point where the aerodynamic stress on the

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vehicle is at its maximum throttle back and then continue

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on up to space.

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The launch vehicles on board system detected the anomaly and

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triggered an abort and separation of the capsule from

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the propulsion module and then shut down the main engine.

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It appears we've experienced an anomaly with today's flight.

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This wasn't planned and we don't have any details yet.

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The capsule was unmanned for mission NS 23 and was instead

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carrying 34 scientific experiments as preprogrammed in

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the event of a booster failure. The capsule quickly undertook an

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automated emergency ejection separating clear of any failing

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booster debris and parachuting safely back down to the ground

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crew.

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Capsule was able to escape successfully. The drugs have

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deployed and the mains are going to be pulled out next. All

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right, the mains are out, they're reefed, they're going to

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be expanding as the mains inflate, the capsule will

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stabilize.

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That's looking like a successful execution for the crew capsule

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and escape system and the crew capsule continuing to descend

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under its three main chutes West Texas mountains in the

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background as we come down towards the desert floor, we're

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going to expect that retro thrust system to fire again that

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will take out most of the energy in the landing.

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In addition to the parachutes, there goes the retro thrust

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system, our backup safety systems kicked in today to keep

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our payload safe. During an off nominal situation.

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Remains of the booster appear to have crashed relatively intact

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on the desert floor. Blue Origin surfa carried 31 people into

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space on sub orbital ballistic flights reaching space means

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passing an altitude of 100 kilometers. The Carmen line

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where aerodynamic surfaces can no longer control the operation

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and movement of a spacecraft and instead some form of reaction

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engine like thrusters need to be employed.

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Meanwhile, while Blue Origin remain grounded, their

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competitor in the space tourism industry, virgin galactic has

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carried out four ballistic flights right up to the edge of

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space. This is Space Time and time now to take a brief look at

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some of the other stories making news and science.

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This week with the science report, the Royal Swedish

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Academy Of Sciences has awarded the 2023 Nobel Prize in Physics

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to Anne Hula, Pierre Agostini and Frank Kraus for their

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separate work on atto second laser pulses used for studying

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spinning electron dynamics in matter.

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An atto second is the quin trillionth of a second. This new

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research has given humanity new tools for exploring the movement

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of electrons inside atoms and molecules. A phenomenon that was

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long thought to be impossible to trace. See electrons move so

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fast that they've been out of the reach of human efforts to

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isolate them.

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But by looking for just the tiniest fraction of a second

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possible. The at a second, scientists now have a blurry

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glimpse of them and that opens up a whole lot of new science.

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The work will allow scientists to study the subatomic movement

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of spinning electrons, a field that could one day lead to

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better electronics and disease diagnoses.

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Meanwhile, the Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine for 2023

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has been awarded to Drew Weissman and Cataline Ko for

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their discovery considering nucleotide base modification,

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which enabled the development of an effective MRN A vaccine

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against the COVID-19 virus.

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Their work showed that base modified MRN A can be used to

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block activation of inflammatory reactions and increase protein

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production when MRN A is delivered into cells. The

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discovery fundamentally changed science's understanding of how

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MRN A interacts with the immune system and it's had a major

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impact on society during the recent COVID-19 pandemic.

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And the 2023 Nobel Prize in chemistry was awarded to Maji

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Bowe Lewis Bros and Alexei Ekimov for their discovery and

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synthesis of quantum dots. Quantum dots are nanoparticles

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so tiny that quantum effects determine their characteristics.

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Today, quantum dots are an important part of nanotechnology

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's toolbox.

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Back in the early 19 eighties, this year's chemistry Laureates

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succeeded in creating quantum dots independently of each

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other. And in 1993 they developed methods for

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manufacturing quantum dots keeping their quality extremely

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high a vital prerequisite for their use in today's

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nanotechnologies.

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A new study is looking at people 's attitudes towards Daylight

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Saving which began this month in all Australian States and

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territories except Queensland, Western Australia and the

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northern territory internationally. It's a

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controversial topic with Europe looking at trying to abolish it

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altogether while the United States is going the other way

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they want to adopt it all year round.

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Now, the Sleep Health Foundation 's formed a working group to

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review the current literature and to form a position

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statement. And it's also just launched a national survey to

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ask the Australian public what they really think about Daylight

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Saving. The survey is especially looking for patterns relating to

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postcodes, sleeping preferences such as whether you're a night

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owl or an early bird.

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Polish. And French. Researchers say a commercially available

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water additive with pomegranate extract limits the reformation

00:23:48
of plaque and tartar on dogs teeth after they've been to

00:23:51
doggy dentists for a clean. The findings were reported in the

00:23:55
journal frontiers of veterinary science could help man's best

00:23:58
friend avoid gum disease in the long term.

00:24:02
This study which was funded by the company that makes the

00:24:04
treatment looked at dental hygiene in 40 dogs with MD gum

00:24:08
disease after a professional clean and split them up into two

00:24:11
separate groups. One group received further treatment while

00:24:15
the other group was given plain water.

00:24:18
After a month. During which time, none of the dogs had their

00:24:20
teeth brushed. The dogs that received the treatment scored 47

00:24:24
per cent lower for the amount of plaque and 24 per cent lower for

00:24:28
the amount of Tatar compared to the dogs given just plain water.

00:24:33
The Therapeutic Goods Administration says reports made

00:24:36
last year, about two boys dying from the COVID vaccines were

00:24:40
false. A spokesperson for the Australian drug regulator says

00:24:44
both reports were found to be hoaxes. Jim Mendham from

00:24:48
Australian skeptics says the claims were part of ongoing

00:24:51
disinformation campaigns by anti vaxxers.

00:24:54
The issue is that of course, in anything like a pandemic or, and

00:24:59
then vaccines, etc, the conspiracy theorists come out

00:25:02
and saying they're being coerced by government into having these

00:25:05
dangerous treatments. And so they will look for anything they

00:25:09
can to find evidence that what they're being forced to do or

00:25:12
what they rejecting their particular cases is either

00:25:15
illegal or immoral or it's dangerous, right?

00:25:18
So they will spread falsehoods readily without any moral

00:25:22
control or ethical controls or anything. They will lie through

00:25:25
their teeth and finding them out is the hard thing. But they did

00:25:28
find out about a couple of them, just a couple that were reports

00:25:31
in 2022 that two boys, one aged six and one aged seven had died

00:25:35
because of COVID vaccines.

00:25:36
So the Therapeutic Goods Administration which was charge

00:25:39
of authorizing approving vaccines went into these claims,

00:25:43
they receive a lot of reports of negative side effects or

00:25:46
whatever and they have to log them all.

00:25:48
It's part of the duty when you see a pharmaceutical with all

00:25:51
these lists of possible side effects, most of them happen to

00:25:53
one person or something and you wonder if it was actually

00:25:55
associated. But anyway, that's the law and they do that and

00:25:58
then they go and look at them and there was especially when

00:26:00
you talk about death. They received these two reports after

00:26:03
the COVID vaccination and they turned out be hoaxes.

00:26:05
Both of them said that a seven year old boy had died from an

00:26:08
adverse event following immunization with an unspecified

00:26:11
brand of COVID vaccine. And the separate report in the same year

00:26:15
claimed a six year old boy had died after receiving the Pfizer

00:26:18
vaccine. Now, what they found out was that these were hopes

00:26:20
that these things never happened.

00:26:21
And the TGA has actually reported the details of nine

00:26:25
deaths in children ranging from 5 to 17 years after COVID

00:26:28
vaccine between September 21 and March 23. So they pretty much as

00:26:32
long as we've had the vaccine, but they emphasized that it is

00:26:35
correlation not causation necessarily like a death that

00:26:38
follows the vaccine is not necessarily caused by the

00:26:40
vaccine.

00:26:41
And that's what the difference was that for a start these two

00:26:43
children to death were hoaxes, right? We're not even quite sure

00:26:46
if the kids existed at all, right. And that the deaths they

00:26:49
do know about none of them, of kids have been definitely

00:26:52
attributed to the vaccine itself. There's been no

00:26:54
attribution of deaths because of the.

00:26:57
So that's what they've got to be careful of. But nonetheless,

00:27:00
those two reports of kids dying, boys dying were spread far and

00:27:03
wide. And then because you know, if the authorities report and

00:27:07
say no, these never happened, the response from the conspiracy

00:27:10
theories are you're covering it up. So it's a bit of a no win

00:27:12
for the authorities in that case.

00:27:14
But at least they pointed out that these two kids didn't die

00:27:17
just like the dive. Suddenly movement. That's been around for

00:27:19
a while where suddenly you're getting these athletes that have

00:27:22
dropping, that are dying because they've had the claims that

00:27:24
they've had COVID vaccines, celebrities, actors, actresses,

00:27:27
whatever the same thing. Most of these people may not have had a

00:27:30
vaccine recently.

00:27:31
They may not have had a vaccine at all. And a lot of them have

00:27:33
very good reasons for why they might have sort of fell ill or

00:27:36
even died. But that doesn't stop. I mean, one person that

00:27:39
was quoted in the dive suddenly movement had a car accident was

00:27:42
killed in an accident. So, I mean, it's hardly due to the

00:27:44
vaccine.

00:27:45
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