In this exciting episode of SpaceTime with Stuart Gary, we delve into the latest groundbreaking discoveries and revelations in the world of space and science. First, we explore the long-dismissed realm of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, as the United States Congress holds historic hearings on the matter. Senior military and intelligence officials testify to having collected crashed remains of unidentified flying objects and non-human bodies, challenging the conventional notions surrounding these enigmatic encounters. Next, we uncover astonishing evidence from a new study that has detected a wide array of organic molecules on the Martian surface, fueling the ongoing quest for signs of life on the Red Planet. Then, we venture into the fascinating world of Martian geography with recent research proposing a captivating theory - suggesting that Olympus Mons, the largest volcano in the solar system, might have once been a volcanic island in a vast Martian Ocean. In the Science Report segment, we address growing concerns about ancient pathogens, locked away for millennia in melting ice, now resurfacing and posing potential threats to modern ecosystems. Additionally, we delve into the world of archaeology, where an intriguing discovery of a two-thousand-year-old Rebel Jewish coin dating back to the anti-Roman revolts sheds light on historical events. And, don't miss out on the gripping new theory about the legendary Loch Ness Monster, captivating both believers and skeptics alike. Finally, we turn our attention to the tech world, where Samsung showcases its next generation of innovative devices, promising exciting advancements in the field of technology. Tune in to SpaceTime with Stuart Gary, where we unravel the mysteries of the cosmos and bring you the latest scientific breakthroughs that shape our understanding of the universe. Don't miss this captivating episode packed with awe-inspiring stories and cutting-edge discoveries!
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STUART GARY: This is Space Time series 26 episode 92 for broadcast on the second of August 2023. Coming up on Space Time spectacular evidence during congressional hearings on unidentified anomalous phenomena, discovery of diverse organic materials on Mars and was Olympus Mons a giant Martian Volcanic Island. All that and more coming up on Space Time.
Welcome to Space Time with Stuart Garry.
STUART GARY: Well, for years, they've been dismissed as the stuff of misinformation, misidentification and conspiracy theories. But now the United States Congress has heard evidence from senior military and intelligence officials claiming that for years it's been collecting the crashed remains of unidentified flying objects and the bodies of non humans so called biologics.
STUART GARY: Three witnesses have given sworn evidence to a special congressional hearing about extraterrestrial spacecraft allegedly in the possession of the US military, former US military intelligence official turned whistleblower David Grouch, who served 14 years as an intelligence officer in the Air Force and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency told house lawmakers that Congress was being kept in the dark about unidentified anomalous phenomena.
STUART GARY: What you and I would call UFOs and Grouch isn't some disgruntled employee. He served on two Pentagon task force investigating UFOs until earlier this year. He told Congress that for decades, the US military had been operating a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
STUART GARY: Grouch told the House Oversight Committee's National Security subcommittee that executive branch agencies have withheld information about the mysterious objects for years. He testified that he knew people who were injured, attempting to reverse engineer recovered spacecraft.
STUART GARY: However, despite many hours of grilling, he gave no actual concrete evidence to support any of his claims. And he admitted that he personally was denied access to those programs. Despite repeatedly requesting it instead, he interviewed the officials who had direct knowledge of the spacecraft and the so called biologics recovered from them.
STUART GARY: He then accused the military of misappropriating funds to shield these operations as black ops from congressional oversight, the Pentagon had previously denied Grouch's claims but the issue gained widespread attention from Congress and the public a few years ago following the release of cockpit footage showing several incidents involving enc carters between US Navy F-18.
STUART GARY: Hornets and UAP typically showing non descript objects moving through the air at high speeds with no apparent method of propulsion. Most have been attributed to either balloons or optical artifacts with the camera equipment as well as Rush.
STUART GARY: The panel also heard testimony from two former US Navy fighter pilots, Ryan Graves who has spoken about encountering UAP on training missions.
STUART GARY: And David Fr who spotted a large object and captured the now infamous tic tac video during a flight off the coast of California in 2004 Graves was an F-18 fighter pilot stationed at Virginia Beach in 2014 when his squadron first began detecting unknown objects described as dark gray or black cubes inside clear spheres where the apex or tip of the cubes was touching the inside of the sphere.
STUART GARY: He says a fellow pilot told him about one incident about 10 miles off the coast which an object between five and 15 ft in diameter flew between two fa 18 s and came within 50 ft of the aircraft. Breves says that if these ups are foreign military drones, it's an urgent National Security problem.
STUART GARY: He says if there's something else, then it's an issue for science. In either case, he says unidentified objects are a concern for flight safety and the American people deserve to know what's happening.
STUART GARY: Meanwhile, Freier recounted his 2004 encounter with an object off the California Coast, telling lawmakers that he and his wingman spotted the smooth seamless oval shaped object hovering just over the water before it suddenly rapidly climbed about 12,000 ft in the air and then accelerated away and disappeared.
STUART GARY: He says it was then detected 100 kilometers away. Less than a minute later in 2017, The New York Times released a report detailing evidence of a secret Pentagon program that tracked and stated UAP reports. Then in 2020 the Pentagon itself released three grainy videos of those UAP.
STUART GARY: And in May this year, NASA hosted a public hearing about UAP explaining to the public how it would investigate reports in the future. Now, the thing to remember about these congressional hearings is that if any of the three witnesses lied or gave false evidence, they could be charged with perjury spending years in prison.
STUART GARY: So what does all this mean? Well, either these three witnesses are all delusional or liars or they're telling the truth and both options are frightening. Here is some of the congressional testimony.
Thank you, Mr Chairman and good morning to our witnesses who are testifying today. I want to thank each of you for being here to discuss a topic of grave importance to our National Security. Earlier this year, a Chinese spy balloon was shot down off the coast of my home state of South Carolina.
Since the Roswell incident in 1947 many Americans have wondered about the dangers of unknown objects crisscrossing our skies, whether these are us or whether from phenomena advanced technology from American allied or enemy forces or some more out of this world.
So my first question, I have several questions and I'll, I if we could just be quick on these first two, I'm gonna ask each of you the same question. And then I'll get to each of you individually. The first one when you reported your experiences with the UAP, did you face any repercussions with your superiors? Yes or no.
No.
No, I've actually never seen anything personally. Believe it or not. So.
All right. And then do, do you believe there's an active disinformation campaign within our government to deny existence of UAs, yes or no?
I don't have an answer to that as previous, previously stated publicly.
Yes. I think previously with like project Blue Book. Yes. But currently I don't speak for the United States government.
Ok, thank you. I have a few questions for Mr Graves. What percentage of UAP sightings in your belief go unreported by our pilots.
This is an approximation based off of my personal experience, speaking with a number of pilots, but I would estimate we're somewhere near 5% reporting perhaps.
So like 95% basically don't report seeing UAP. That's just my personal estimate in the incident on Virginia Beach. Do you believe the Navy took the danger to your aircraft seriously after it was reported?
A few questions for Mr Faver as an expert naval aviator. Have you ever seen an object that looked and moved like the tic tac UAP? No, did the tic tac UAP move in such a way that defied the laws of physics the way we understand them.
Yes, many dismiss reports as classified weapons testing by our own government. But in your experience as a pilot does our government typically test advanced weapons systems right next to multi million dollar jets without informing our pilots.
Test ranges for that.
It took over 15 years for your encounter with the TIC tac to be declassified. Do you feel there was a good reason to prevent lawmakers from having access to this footage?
No, I just think it was ignored when it happened and it just sat somewhere in a file, never got reported.
It, it, it happens a lot up here shocker. Mr, a couple of questions for you too, sir this morning. What percentage of uaps do you feel are adequately investigated by the US government? Of the 5% that are reported?
I can only speak for my personal leadership over at NGA. I tried to look at every report that came through that I could triage. So do you.
Believe that officials at the highest levels of our National Security apparatus have unlawfully withheld information from Congress and subverted our oversight authority.
There are certain elected leaders that had more information that I'm not sure what they've shared with certain gang of eight members or et cetera. But certainly I, I would not be surprised. Ok.
You say that the government is in possession of potentially non human spacecraft based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts. Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials.
Something I can't discuss in public setting?
Ok. And I can't ask when you think this occurred? If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier. Do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
As I've stated publicly already in my news Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.
Were they, I guess human or non human biologics, non human?
And that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program. I talked to that are currently still on the program.
And was this documentary ever's video photos, eye witness? Like how would that be determined?
The specific documentation I would have to talk to you about.
Ok, so, and, and you may or may not be able to answer my last question and maybe we get into a skiff at the next hearing that we have but who in the government either what agency, sub agency, what contractors who should be called into the next hearing about uaps either in a public setting or even in a private setting.
And, and you probably can't name names but what agencies or organizations contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered? Whether it's about funding what programs are happening and what's out there?
I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing.
Super, thank you. And I yelled.
Back time to miss Luna Mr Rush in speaking to you yesterday. I just wanted to follow up on Representative Raskin's questions in the last couple of years. Have you had incidences that have caused you to be in fear for your life for addressing these issues?
Yes.
Personally, I just want everyone to note that he's coming forward in fear of his life to put in perspective. If they were really not scared about this information coming out, why would someone be intimidated like that? To your knowledge are nhis working with adversarial foreign governments in either technology exchange programs or back engineering programs?
I don't have data on that. I'm not sure.
Have you heard or you had people come forward to present that evidence, not that particular evidence that you just espoused? Ok. On the 19th of April, Doctor Kirkpatrick, head of Arrow had said that he did not find any evidence of uaps.
You also stated that you had in your interview that you had briefed him on information that you were uncovering, but that he did not follow up with you were the items that you divulged to him to National Security.
Yes. Him and I had a classified conversation in April 2022 before he took over a in July 2022 and I provided him some concerns I had, do.
You know why he might not have fallen up with you?
Unfortunately, I cannot read his mind. I wish he did. I was, I was happy to give sage counsel to him on where to look when he took the helm of Arrow.
Ok. And then my last question for you before I move to Mr Graves is, you received prior approval from the defense department to speak on certain issues, correct.
Correct through, do dod prepublication and security review. And I just want to remind the public we're just looking from a security perspective. These are my own personal views and opinions. Not the departments.
Ok. I'm asking that though, mainly because I think that there are many people that would like to discredit you. So it does bring a certain amount of credibility to your testimony.
I'm required by law to do that as a former intelligence officer or I go to jail for revealing classified information.
We don't want you to go to jail.
My next question would actually be for Mr Graves. Can you please explain to me in detail the event that occurred at Van Der Beg Air Force.
Base in the 2003 time frame. A large group of Boeing contractors were operating near one of the launch facilities at Feinberg Air Force Base when they observed a very large 100 yard sided red square approached the base from the ocean and hover at low altitude over one of the launch facilities. This object remained for about 45 seconds or so. Before darting off over the mountains.
There was a similar event within 24 hours later in the evening. This was a morning event, I believe 8 45 in the morning, later in the evening, post sunset, there were reports of other sightings on base including some aggressive behaviors.
These objects were approaching some of the security guards at rapid speeds before darting off. And this is information that was received through one of the witnesses that have approached me at Americans for Safe Aerospace.
Was this documented in any official form, whether it was a police blotter?
Yes, they have official documentation and record from the event that the witness held over the years.
And I'm not going to ask you to do it right now for time reasons, but you'd be able to sketch what was witness, correct? And you have you seen that before on any other equipment and or during your flight time?
I have not seen what they've described. This object was estimated to be almost the size of a football field and I have not seen anything personally that large.
Ok. And then another question on follow up referencing the gimble video go fast incident. Can you just clarify because to our understanding the footage was actually cut off at a certain point, but what happens at the end of that video just for those Americans specifically that are wanting to know about the rest of that footage.
Certainly there was some uncertainty or you know, instability with the object, it, it seemed to rock a bit. And that's the last last I had seen in the video, much of the data that I would recommend be analyzed would consist of radar data that would provide precise kinematics on the object as well as the fleet of objects that are operating nearby. Ok.
And follow up in regards to the reporting procedures that Mr Garcia had addressed on as well as Representative Burchett with the FAA to your understanding, pilots that are seeing this commercial airline pilots, are they receiving cease and desist letters from corporations for coming forward with information in regards to safety for potential air airline passengers.
I have been made privy to conversations with commercial aviators who have received cease and desist orders.
So the American public should know that corporations are putting their own reputations on the basis, not the line but ahead of the safety of the American people. And I think, would you agree with that statement? It appears so? Ok.
And I guess this would be my last, I'm out of time. I yelled, I'll be.
STUART GARY: Back this Space Time. Still to come evidence of diverse organic material on Mars and was Olympus Mons the giant Martian volcano actually a volcanic island, all that and more still to come on Space Time.
STUART GARY: A new study has detected a diverse range of organic molecules on the Martian surface. The data was collected by NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover which has been exploring the Jero Crater region of the Red Planet since its arrival there in February 2021 the new findings reported in the journal nature are consistent with organic molecules on the Martian surface hinting towards past habitability of the Red Planet.
STUART GARY: The study's lead author, Amy Williams from the University Of Florida says scientists have long been fueled by the possibility of finding organic carbon on Mars.
STUART GARY: And while previous missions provided valuable insights, the latest research introduces a new line of evidence that adds to science's understanding of the Red Planet.
STUART GARY: The findings indicate the presence of a more intricate organic geochemical cycle on MARS than previously understood that suggests the existence of several distinct reservoirs of potential organic compounds. Notably, the study detected signals consistent with molecules linked to aqueous processes indicating that water may have played a key role in the diverse range of organic matter on Mars.
STUART GARY: It shows the key building blocks necessary for life have persisted on Mars for a far more extended period of time than previously thought.
STUART GARY: Williams an astrobiologist and expert in organic geochemistry has been at the forefront of the search for life sporting blocks on the Red Planet. As a participating scientist in the Perseverance mission, Williams' work centers on the quest for organic matter on Mars.
STUART GARY: She aims to detect habitable environments, search for potential life materials and uncover evidence of past life. If it ever existed on Mars, eventually, the on site materials and samples collected by Perseverance will be sent back to earth by a future sample return mission.
STUART GARY: But that'll be a complex and ambitious process. Spanning many years. The potential detection of several organic carbon species on Mars has implications for understanding the Red Planet's carbon cycle and the potential of the planet to host life throughout its history.
STUART GARY: Organic matter can be formed from various processes, not just those related to life, geological processes and chemical reactions can also form organic molecules. And it's these processes that are favored right now for the origin of these possible Martian organics.
STUART GARY: Until now, organic carbon's only ever been detected by the Mars Phoenix Lander and the Mars Curiosity Rover Perseverance's twin which is exploring Gale Crater. They used advanced techniques like evolved gas analysis and gas chromatography mass spectrometry.
STUART GARY: But this new study introduces a different technique that's also identified potential simple organic compounds on Mars. An important part of Perseverance's mission was its chosen landing site.
STUART GARY: The rovers landed in Jero Crater and is now exploring a river delta where sediments from further upstream flowed into the crater. As an ancient lake basin. It contains an array of materials including carbonates, clays, and sulfates and these minerals have the potential to preserve organic materials and any possible signs of ancient life that may be there.
STUART GARY: Williams says her team didn't initially expect to detect these potential organic signatures in Jero Crater, but their diversity and distribution in different units of the crater floor now suggest potentially different fates of carbon across these environments.
STUART GARY: The authors used a first of its kind instrument called the scanning habitable environments with ra and luminescence for organics and chemicals or Sherlock to map the distribution of organic molecules and minerals on rock surfaces.
STUART GARY: Sherlock employs deep ultra violet ramen and fluorescent spectroscopy to simultaneously measure weak Raman scattering and throwing fluorescent emissions providing crucial insights into the organic composition of Mars.
STUART GARY: The findings Mark a significant step forward in science's exploration of the Red Planet, laying the groundwork for future investigations into the possibility of life beyond earth. This is Space Time still to come.
STUART GARY: New research suggests that the solar system's largest volcano, Olympus Mons on the Red Planet Mars may once have been a volcanic island in the Martian Ocean and later in the Science Report, growing warnings that ancient pathogens trapped for millennia in ice are now beginning to emerge. All that and more still to come on Space Time.
STUART GARY: New research suggests the solar system's largest volcano. The Martian giant Olympus Mons was once a volcanic island in the Martian Ocean. A report in the journal Earth and Planetary Science letters suggests the 20,000 m high shield volcano shares morphological similarities with many active volcanic islands on earth. Scientists believe these are the result of contact between liquid water and lava from the volcano.
STUART GARY: Similar features seen on the northern flank of the Alba Mons volcano located more than 1500 kilometers from Olympus Mons also support the idea of a vast ocean of liquid water once occupying much of the Red Planet's northern lowlands. The island of Olympus Mons itself would have been huge about the size of France landscapes that look like bays, seashores and even ancient beaches surround the Martian northern lowlands.
STUART GARY: Adding further evidence to the idea of a vast Martian Ocean having once covered much of the Red Planet's northern hemisphere. Back at a time when Mars was still a warm wet world rather than the freeze dried desert. It's become today. Scientists say precise dating of these volcanic rocks would provide a considerable amount of information about the climatic evolution of the Red Planet this Space Time and time.
STUART GARY: Now to take another brief look at some of the other stories making news in science. This week. With the Science Report, there are growing warnings today that ancient pathogens which have been trapped for millennia are now emerging from melting ice and permafrost due to the effects of climate change.
STUART GARY: A new global study by the European Commission joint research Center and Flinders University has been examining the ecological risk posed by the release of these unpredictable ancient microbes. A report in the journal PLOS Computational Biology claims computer simulations show the release of just one per cent of dormant pathogens could cause major environmental damage and widespread loss of organisms around the world.
STUART GARY: Archaeologists in Israel have discovered another 2000 year old Rebel Jewish coin dating back to the anti Roman revolts. The rare half shackle coin in described with the words the Holy Jerusalem in Hebrew was dug up in the Angadi Nature Reserve in the Judean Desert. The coin is dated to the year 66 67 when the Roman Empire destroyed the second Jewish temple on the site of Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
STUART GARY: Continued rebellion against Rome over the following 200 years known as the Jewish Roman wars eventually led to Rome killing most of the Jews through a program of systematic ethnic cleansing with a few remaining survivors, either displaced or sold into slavery and or dispersed to the far reaches of the Roman Empire.
STUART GARY: What today is known as the Jewish diaspora. With most of the land's traditional Jewish owners, either dead or banished by Rome. The provinces of Israel and Judea were renamed Syria, Palestina or Roman Palestine. The first ever time that name was used to identify the traditional Jewish homeland.
STUART GARY: A new study has changed the hypothesis that Scottish folklore's infamous lightness monster is a species of giant eel. The latest findings reported in the journal Generic Bio challenges. The popular theory using previous estimates of the monster's size to predict the probability of encountering a large eel of similar size today.
STUART GARY: Instead, the study found that giant eels simply could not account the sightings of larger animals in the freshwater Scottish Highlands lake which is connected to the North Sea by a narrow channel based on ill catch data from Loch Ness and other freshwater bodies in Europe.
STUART GARY: Scientists found the chances of encountering a meter long eel in Loch Ness is somewhere around 50,000 or one. And the probability of finding an even larger Loch Ness monster sized eel tens of meters long is virtually zero. A previous Loch Ness environmental DNA study by the University Of Otago found no evidence for any exotic life forms in the loch.
STUART GARY: At least none, which could explain the mythical creature often thought to be a remnant community of plesiosaurs from the age of the dinosaur. The environmental DNA study also ruled out sturgeons, sharks, otters and seals instead suggesting that large eels provided the most likely explanation.
STUART GARY: Samsung's had a busy week unveiling its next generation devices with folding screens. The release includes the popular Z flip phone and new water resistant tablets and smart watches with the details. We're joined by technology editor Alex Sahara Rout from tech advice style live.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: Samsung has launched a range of new devices. We have the galaxy Z flip five which is their flip phone. It now has a 3.4 inch screen on the front as well as a 6.7 inch screen inside. Now, the crease is meant to be a little bit less noticeable but it's still there and the front screen, you can actually swipe it left and right and up and down.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: It's got various additions to be able to text people to accept balls to look at photographs, to use it as a selfie camera. And you have a lot of little refinements and still using one UI 5.1 0.1. So many of the experiences that people are used to are the same.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: But you now have this newer foldable where both sides of the phone fold flat against each other, even though it seems to still be a hinge inside where it's obviously not falling completely flat because well glass can't do that. And of course, it's using the Snap Dragon Eight gen two processor made for Samsung Galaxy.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: You have 256 gig and five versions of eight giga Ram. Then you have the fold five which has a 6.2 not as wide screen on the outside and a 7.6 inch larger screen on the inside. Again, teardrop shaped hinge, double rail on the hinge, the sides fold down flatt next to each other. So you know, there's a tiny imperceptible gap, not as big as a gap we had before same processor.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: You've got 12 gigabyte versions coming in 2005 65 12 and one terabyte, a slimmer pen, more gestures for multitasking, more ways to make multitasking work. You also have some new galaxy six devices. You've got the Galaxy Watch Six and the six classic.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: Then you have three tablets, the S the S nine plus and the S nine ultra in various sizes. So those represent the latest devices from Samsung, the ecosystem of Samsung devices, the latest version of Android and the way that Samsung's multitasking works. And you do have a lot of competitors from Oppo Motorola.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: Even Google now has the Google fold, which is similar to the Samsung fold, but it doesn't use a stylus. So there is competition out there. But the world's best foldable devices and the most advanced are still coming from Samsung. And we just have to imagine that Apple, for example, is waiting to see how all of this plays out.
ALEX ZAHAROV-REUTT: So that when it comes along with its version of a foldable and fable device, it will be able to learn from all the experiences of all these previous models. So look, you can see all these details on my website. Global availability should be August 18th. So a little bit of a while to go but offers are available now.
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