S27E61: A Solar Spectacle: The X8.7 Flare and Earth's Auroral Symphony
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S27E61: A Solar Spectacle: The X8.7 Flare and Earth's Auroral Symphony

Embark on a celestial odyssey with SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 61, where we witness the Sun unleash its most powerful solar flare in nearly two decades, sparking a series of geomagnetic storms that dazzled the skies with extraordinary auroras. The flare, an enormous X8.7 class eruption, marked the pinnacle of a week of solar ferocity, with the Earth enduring a bombardment that produced northern and southern lights visible far beyond their usual latitudes.
We then delve into the mysteries of Earth's magnetotail, where NASA's Magnetospheric Multiscale mission has observed unusual substorms that could reshape our understanding of magnetic reconnection and its role in auroral phenomena.
Finally, we plunge into the depths of the sea with China's construction of the deep-sea neutrino telescope, TRIDENT, designed to scan the cosmos for neutrinos and unlock the secrets of cosmic rays and the extreme universe.
Join us on SpaceTime with Stuart Gary for an exploration of these awe-inspiring events and more, as we traverse the vastness of space and the wonders it holds.
(00:00) This is spacetime series 27, episode 61, for broadcast on 20 May 2024
(00:43) The sun has produced its biggest solar flare in nearly two decades
(10:28) NASA scientists have detected an unusual event in Earth's magnetotail
(21:35) The south pole neutrino detector uses liquid water rather than solid ice
(28:39) Supernova is basically a neutrino explosion that has this tiny optical signature
(33:00) New observations confirm that April 2024 was the hottest month on record
(35:43) A new study claims males with low testosterone may have an increased risk of dying prematurely
(37:03) Shroud of Turin supposedly shows Jesus after crucifixion
(42:25) Tim Mendham: crucifixion was fairly common in those days
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[00:00:00] This is SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 61 for broadcast on the 20th of May 2024.

[00:00:06] Coming up on SpaceTime, a spectacular solar storm stuns the world, unusual activity in Earth's

[00:00:13] magnetodale, and scanning the skies for neutrinos from deep under the sea.

[00:00:20] All that and more coming up on SpaceTime.

[00:00:24] Welcome to SpaceTime with Stuart Gary.

[00:00:27] The Sun has produced its biggest solar flare in nearly two decades.

[00:00:48] The massive 8.7-class explosion rounded off more than a week of spectacular geomagnetic storms,

[00:00:55] which pummeled the Earth and created dazzling northern and southern auroral lights powerful

[00:01:00] enough to reach mid-latitude skies normally unaccustomed to seeing such spectacles.

[00:01:05] NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory captured the bright blast,

[00:01:09] which was the strongest solar flare since 2005 and the biggest during the Sun's current 11-year

[00:01:14] solar cycle. The event is being classified as an extreme geomagnetic storm, the first since

[00:01:21] the Halloween storms of October 2003, which caused blackouts in Sweden and damaged power

[00:01:26] infrastructure in South Africa. The solar cycle is a nearly periodic 11-year change in the Sun's

[00:01:32] activity measured in terms of variations in the number of observed sunspots on the Sun's surface.

[00:01:38] Over the period of the solar cycle, levels of solar radiation and ejection of solar material,

[00:01:44] the number and size of sunspots, solar flares and coronal loops all exhibit a synchronized

[00:01:49] fluctuation from a period of minimum activity known as solar minimum to a period of maximum

[00:01:54] activity known as solar maxima or solar max for short and then back to a period of minimum activity

[00:02:00] again. The Sun's magnetic field flips polarity during each solar cycle, with the star's magnetic

[00:02:07] north pole becoming south and its south pole becoming north. This flip occurs at solar max.

[00:02:14] After two solar cycles, the Sun's magnetic field returns to its original state, completing what's

[00:02:19] known as a hail cycle. The current solar cycle, number 25, began back in December 2019 and

[00:02:26] appears to be happening unusually quickly, with solar max likely to occur a year earlier than

[00:02:31] expected. The good news is the powerful X8.7 class solar flare which erupted last week was

[00:02:37] facing away from the Earth as sunspots which spawned it were rotating over the Sun's western

[00:02:43] or right-hand limb. The flare was caused by a cluster of sunspots known as Active Region 3664.

[00:02:50] The cluster was around 17 times as wide as the planet Earth itself, and it was by far the largest

[00:02:56] and most complex solar sunspot region observed during the current cycle. Starting around May 8,

[00:03:03] Active Region 3664 sent at least seven solar flares and coronal mass ejections racing towards

[00:03:09] the Earth, often reaching speeds of up to 1,800 km per second, and they triggered the most intense

[00:03:15] geomagnetic storms or space weather events of the current solar cycle. Space weather is a sudden

[00:03:21] flood of energy and ionized particles, such as protons, electrons and atomic nuclei, triggered by

[00:03:28] powerful eruptions of solar flares and coronal mass ejections on the Sun's surface. Solar flares are

[00:03:34] explosions of energy caused by the sudden snapping of tangled and twisted magnetic field lines.

[00:03:40] These are known as flux ropes, and they emanate from sunspots on the solar surface.

[00:03:45] Sunspots are cooler regions on the Sun's surface that appear darker than surrounding areas.

[00:03:51] That's because the magnetic field lines reaching out into space from deep inside the Sun at these

[00:03:55] places prevents some of the heat from within the Sun from reaching the surface. Sunspots usually

[00:04:01] appear in pairs of opposite magnetic polarity. The number varies according to the 11-year solar cycle.

[00:04:08] There are very few, and sometimes none at all, during solar minimum, and they reach a crescendo

[00:04:13] at solar max. Individual sunspots or groups of sunspots can last anywhere from a few days to

[00:04:20] several months, but they all eventually decay. Sunspots expand and contract as they move across

[00:04:26] the surface of the Sun, with diameters ranging from 16 to 160,000 kilometers.

[00:04:33] So what's behind them? Well, different latitudes of the Sun rotate at different rates, causing these

[00:04:38] magnetic field lines to become tangled and twisted, eventually snapping and then realigning

[00:04:43] through magnetic reconnection. And that produces secondary phenomena such as coronal loops,

[00:04:48] prominences and eruptions of electromagnetic energy which, if facing the Earth, can reach

[00:04:53] the planet in just 8.3 minutes. Now, if the solar flares are powerful enough, they'll also drag

[00:04:59] billions of tons of coronal plasma and embedded magnetic field frozen as flux with them, exploding

[00:05:05] out into space at speeds of up to 3,000 kilometers per second, which, if facing the Earth, will reach

[00:05:11] our planet in just 15 to 18 hours. When these geomagnetic storms reach the Earth, the flux of

[00:05:17] ionized particles slam into our planet's magnetosphere and they're then guided by the planet's

[00:05:22] magnetic field lines through the ionosphere, a region already filled with charged particles,

[00:05:26] and then down towards the north and south magnetic poles. Now, as these charged streams of plasma

[00:05:33] travel through the Earth's upper atmosphere, they collide with oxygen and nitrogen atoms and molecules,

[00:05:38] causing them to excite and emit photons, giving off a glow and producing colorful

[00:05:43] cone-like displays known as the northern and southern lights, the aurora borealis and aurora

[00:05:48] astralis. The colors being emitted by these lights depends on which particles are being ionized.

[00:05:55] Reddish brown glows are caused by the collision of particles with single oxygen atoms in the Earth's

[00:06:01] upper atmosphere, usually above 300 kilometers. Lower down, a green hue is created by single

[00:06:07] oxygen atoms down to altitudes of around 100 kilometers. The kaleidoscope then turns a whiteish

[00:06:12] yellow beige when nitrogen is mixed in with the oxygen. Aurora also exhibit a blue, red, or even

[00:06:18] purple glow in the lower atmosphere caused by the excitation of molecular nitrogen below 100 kilometers.

[00:06:25] However, as well as the spectacular aurora light shows, these highly charged particles can also

[00:06:30] cause a lot of damage, even destroying spacecraft by shorting out electronics and damaging circuits.

[00:06:36] They also cause the Earth's atmosphere to expand and contract, wobbling like jello,

[00:06:41] and that increases atmospheric drag on orbiting spacecraft, resulting in premature orbital decay

[00:06:47] and the need to use up more fuel in order to maintain an operational orbit.

[00:06:51] Worse still, space weather increases the level of radiation exposure astronauts experience,

[00:06:56] affecting their health. On the ground, these solar storms can overload power lines,

[00:07:01] blowing transformers, and causing widespread blackouts. In 1989, one such geomagnetic storm

[00:07:07] blew out a whole bunch of transformers, causing massive blackouts across eastern North America.

[00:07:13] Geomagnetic storms also affect communications and navigation satellites. But satellite operators,

[00:07:19] electrical grid managers, and engineers who maintain crucial technological infrastructure

[00:07:23] say while they're still assessing the impact of this historic event, most major systems

[00:07:28] seem to have weathered the blast okay. Although New Zealand's electrical transmission services

[00:07:33] did temporarily turn off some circuits around the country to prevent equipment damage.

[00:07:38] As a precaution, NASA temporarily stopped gathering astronomical data from its Chandra

[00:07:42] X-ray Observatory and stowed its instruments in order to protect them from the radiation blasts.

[00:07:48] And the agency's ICESat-2 spacecraft suddenly shut down when it experienced unexpected rotation

[00:07:53] during the storm, probably caused by increased atmospheric drag. The agency says however there

[00:07:59] was no threat to crew aboard the International Space Station and Beijing says their Tiangong

[00:08:04] space station also remained operational. But concerns like that were far from the minds of

[00:08:09] the general public, with the northern and southern lights at their best and social media being

[00:08:15] flooded with stunning images. Normally restricted to polar regions and higher latitudes, the auroral

[00:08:21] light show was visible all the way south to Mexico and the Bahamas, and north as far as Tasmania,

[00:08:26] Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide. Now the cause of all this, Active Region 3664 has now rotated off

[00:08:33] the side of the sun seen from Earth and entered the field of view of the European Space Agency's

[00:08:38] solar orbiter which is in the middle of a series of dives through the sun's outer atmosphere and

[00:08:43] will undoubtedly provide a new perspective on all the activity. And NASA's Parker Solar Probe

[00:08:48] spacecraft, which is currently at the outer part of its looping orbit around the sun, will also be

[00:08:53] able to provide some unique data. And it doesn't end there. For two of NASA's Mars spacecraft, the

[00:08:59] solar storm provides an unprecedented opportunity to study how intense solar activity hits the red

[00:09:05] planet. NASA's Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution spacecraft MAVEN monitored the

[00:09:11] geomagnetic storm's effects on the red planet's atmosphere while the agency's Curiosity rover in

[00:09:16] Gale Crater studied those same effects from the ground. For the record, the most powerful geomagnetic

[00:09:22] storm in recorded history was the Carrington event, named after British astronomer Richard Carrington.

[00:09:28] It peaked around the first and second of September in 1859 during what was solar cycle 10. It created

[00:09:35] strong auroral displays that were reported globally and caused sparking and even fires at multiple

[00:09:41] telegraph stations. A geomagnetic storm of that magnitude occurring today would cause widespread

[00:09:47] electrical disruptions, power blackouts and other damage due to extended outages of the electrical

[00:09:52] grid. But it's not all over yet folks. We're getting our first glimpse of a new active sunspot

[00:09:58] region. This one's been named 3685, which is now rotating into view around the eastern or left-hand

[00:10:04] limb of the sun. And it's already erupted in major X-class solar flares, including one X2.99 event.

[00:10:12] It certainly looks like the upcoming solar max will be really interesting. This is Space Time.

[00:10:19] Still to come, unusual activity in the Earth's magnetotail and scanning the skies for neutrinos

[00:10:26] from deep under the sea. All that and more still to come on Space Time. Astronomers have detected

[00:10:48] an unusual event in Earth's magnetotail, the elongated portion of the planet's magnetosphere

[00:10:53] trailing away from the sun. The data from NASA's Magnetospheric Multiscale Mission spacecraft are

[00:10:59] showing fleeting disturbances in the magnetotail known as substorms that are releasing energy and

[00:11:04] triggering auroral activity. Since their launch in 2015, the four spacecraft have been surveying

[00:11:10] the magnetopause, the boundary between the magnetosphere and surrounding plasma. They're

[00:11:15] looking for signs of magnetic reconnection, which happens when magnetic field lines converge, break

[00:11:21] apart and then reconnect explosively, converting magnetic energy into heat and kinetic energy.

[00:11:26] In 2017, they observed signs of magnetic reconnection in the magnetotail, but not the

[00:11:32] normal signs of a substorm that accompany reconnection, such as strong electrical

[00:11:36] currents and perturbations in the magnetic field. One of the scientists involved in the study,

[00:11:41] Amy Marshall from the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, says scientists want to

[00:11:46] see how the local physics observed by the probes affects the entire global magnetosphere.

[00:11:52] By comparing that event to more typical substorms, scientists are striving to improve their

[00:11:57] understanding of what causes a substorm and the relationship between substorms and magnetic

[00:12:02] reconnection. During this year-long project, scientists will compare in-situ measurements

[00:12:07] of magnetic reconnection affecting local fields and particles to global magnetosphere

[00:12:12] reconstructions created by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center using space weather computer modeling.

[00:12:18] Marshall says it's possible significant differences exist between the global

[00:12:22] magnetotail convection patterns for substorms and non-substorm tail reconnection.

[00:12:27] Researchers haven't yet looked at the movement of magnetic field lines on a global scale,

[00:12:32] so it could be that this unusual substorm was a very localized occurrence that the spacecraft

[00:12:37] just happened to be lucky enough to observe. On the other hand, if not, it could completely

[00:12:42] reshape science's understanding of the relationship between tailside magnetic

[00:12:47] reconnection and substorms. Needless to say, we'll keep you informed.

[00:12:52] This is Space Time. Still to come, scanning the skies for neutrinos from deep under the sea.

[00:12:59] And later in the Science Report, new observations have now confirmed that April 2024 was the

[00:13:05] hottest month on planet Earth ever recorded. All that and more still to come on Space Time.

[00:13:27] China has started construction of the Deep-Sea Neutrino Telescope in the Western Pacific.

[00:13:32] The Tropical Deep-Sea Neutrino Telescope, or TRIDENT, will search for, detect, and analyze

[00:13:38] neutrinos in order to study the origins of cosmic rays and explore the extreme universe.

[00:13:44] Neutrinos are elementary subatomic particles. They're generated through radioactive decay

[00:13:50] in stars, in supernovae, in nuclear explosions, in particle accelerators, and in atomic reactors.

[00:13:57] The neutrino is so named because it's electrically neutral and because its rest

[00:14:01] mass is so small it was long thought to be zero. Neutrinos are the most common form of

[00:14:06] matter in the universe and having almost no mass, they're capable of being accelerated to

[00:14:11] almost the speed of light. They come in three known types or flavors, electron neutrinos,

[00:14:17] muon neutrinos, and tau neutrinos, each with its own specific properties. Now confusingly,

[00:14:23] the three flavors of neutrinos don't line up with the three mass species. It seems each of

[00:14:29] the three flavors is made up of a quantum mixture of the three mass species. So for example,

[00:14:34] a particular tau neutrino would have bits of all three mass species in it.

[00:14:39] Now those different mass species allow the neutrino to oscillate between the three flavors.

[00:14:44] For example, an electron neutrino produced in let's say a beta decay reaction could end up

[00:14:49] interacting in a distant detector as a muon or tau neutrino. Now although they have no electrical

[00:14:55] charge, neutrinos do have their own corresponding antimatter counterparts identified by the

[00:15:00] opposite chirality or handedness. Neutrinos interact with other matter only through gravity

[00:15:06] and the weak nuclear force. In fact, they're so weakly interactive that several trillion are

[00:15:11] passing through you every second without you even realizing it. China's neutrino observatory

[00:15:16] is being built on a deep sea plane some three and a half kilometers below the surface.

[00:15:21] The detector will comprise 1,200 vertical strings or cables, each 700 meters long and spaced between

[00:15:28] 70 and 100 meters apart. Each string will carry 20 high-resolution digital optical detector modules.

[00:15:36] Spanning around four kilometers and covering some 12 square kilometers, the array will monitor

[00:15:41] around eight cubic kilometers of seawater looking for high-energy neutrino interactions.

[00:15:47] It'll be the fourth neutrino array of this type. The others include the famous IceCube

[00:15:52] Observatory on Antarctica which is the world's leading neutrino telescope, the Baikal GVD

[00:15:57] Observatory on Lake Baikal, and the Cubic Kilometer Neutrino Telescope or KM3Net located

[00:16:04] some three and a half kilometers below the surface in the Mediterranean Sea at three locations off

[00:16:09] the coast of Sicily, France, and Greece. The Cubic Kilometer Neutrino Telescope is still under

[00:16:14] construction and it includes the Astroparticle Research with Cosmics in the Abyss or ARCA

[00:16:19] telescope which will search for neutrinos from distant astrophysical sources such as supernovae,

[00:16:25] gamma-ray bursts, and colliding stars. And the Oscillation Research with Cosmics in the Abyss or

[00:16:30] ARCA telescope which is studying neutrino properties exploiting neutrinos generated

[00:16:35] in Earth's atmosphere. Arrays of thousands of optical photomultiplier sensors will detect the

[00:16:40] faint light in the deep sea from charged particles originating from collisions between neutrinos and

[00:16:46] the Earth. The facility will also include instrumentation for Earth and Sea Sciences

[00:16:51] for long-term and online monitoring of the deep sea environment and of the seafloor.

[00:16:56] Once complete, the ARCA detector will form an array of more than 200 detection units. Each of

[00:17:02] these 700 meter long cables will hold 18 modules equipped with ultra-sensitive light detectors that

[00:17:08] register the faint flashes of Cherenkov radiation generated by neutrino interactions in the pitch

[00:17:13] black abyss of the Mediterranean Sea. The position and direction of the optical modules and the time

[00:17:19] of arrival of the light on the photomultiplier's inside is recorded and the trajectories of the

[00:17:24] particles then reconstructed from these measurements. The entire cubic kilometer

[00:17:29] neutrino telescope project should be completed and fully operational by 2026, occupying more than a

[00:17:35] cubic kilometer of water comprising hundreds of vertical detection lines anchored to the seabed

[00:17:40] and held in place by buoys. One of the project scientists, Dr. Clancy James from Curtin University

[00:17:46] in the International Center for Radio Astronomy Research, says such a huge volume of water was

[00:17:51] required to surround the instruments because neutrinos would otherwise be extremely difficult

[00:17:56] to detect. James says the underwater telescope is bombarded by millions of different particles

[00:18:01] but only neutrinos can pass through the Earth to reach the detector from below, so unlike normal

[00:18:07] telescopes which look upwards into the skies, this facility looks downwards towards the Earth.

[00:18:13] Thereby seeing the same skies as viewed by upwards facing telescopes in Australia.

[00:18:18] The particles that CAM3Net is detecting, neutrinos, you know they interact very rarely and we expect

[00:18:23] CAM3Net to only detect maybe of order dozens per year. However there's also particles from

[00:18:29] these cosmic ray interactions that hit the top of the atmosphere muons and come down. So what this

[00:18:33] means is that the detector is saturated by about a million muon events a day coming down from above.

[00:18:39] However only neutrinos can actually make it up from under the detector. So the best way of saying

[00:18:45] okay we detected this particle, was it a neutrino or was it something else, is to look for particles

[00:18:51] coming up underneath, from underneath the detector coming up through the Earth at which point you

[00:18:56] can say well the only thing that could have possibly made it through the whole Earth to

[00:18:59] the detector was a neutrino. So what this means is that neutrino telescopes mostly look downwards

[00:19:05] through the Earth as opposed to normal telescopes when you point them up at the sky above you.

[00:19:09] And so the sky, the region of the universe that CAM3Net will be studying is the region of the

[00:19:14] universe that's visible from normal telescopes on the opposite side of the world. That is to say

[00:19:19] Australia which means that the sky that Australian telescopes are viewing is exactly the same sky

[00:19:23] that CAM3Net is viewing all the time. Now neutrinos are the most common type of massive, I say massive

[00:19:30] particle in the universe, particle that has mass. But they almost never interact with things. So we

[00:19:36] have something like you know 10 to the 12 passing through us every second of that order from the sun.

[00:19:41] So the neutrinos are produced in nuclear reactions. The ones we're trying to look for are produced by

[00:19:46] high energy particle interactions going on in the universe somewhere. So I'm sure you're familiar

[00:19:51] with the Large Hadron Collider and you know this atom smasher smashing together particles at you

[00:19:56] know very high energies. Well this is happening out there in the universe but at even higher energies.

[00:20:00] Now the fact that it's being positioned in the Mediterranean Sea exactly opposite where Australia

[00:20:05] is, is that deliberate or is that just a coincidence? It's a coincidence. So the reason it's there is

[00:20:10] simply because it's a collaboration of European institutes and if you want to build an instrument

[00:20:16] it's easier to do it nearby. And the main constraint you need is to get this thing down deep.

[00:20:21] You need it to be deep down in the water for two reasons. One, so it's dark. So when you do

[00:20:26] sort of an estimate of the amount of light that you get detected, so what happens is a neutrino

[00:20:30] if it does interact will produce a burst of light and that light is extremely faint. So you might

[00:20:36] only detect maybe a dozen photons from that collision which is about the amount of light

[00:20:41] that you'd get in one second from my light globe here in my office that you would see in Sydney.

[00:20:45] So it's not very much light. So you need it to be in a really dark place and you don't actually get

[00:20:50] it to be dark enough unless you're more than a kilometre under the surface of the water.

[00:20:54] The other reason is that these cosmic rays I mentioned earlier, these high energy particles

[00:20:59] from space, they're hitting the top of our atmosphere all the time and they produce

[00:21:03] more particles that then sort of rain down on us at sea level and some of these particles called

[00:21:08] muons can actually go through kilometres of stuff. They actually don't get stopped very easily at all

[00:21:14] and so what you want to do is shield yourself from as many of these muons as possible by going deeper

[00:21:19] and deeper. Now you can't shield yourself from all of them so KM3Net will detect something like

[00:21:25] a million of these muons a day but nonetheless it's much easier to do at the surface. So the

[00:21:29] reason it's being built at the bottom of the Mediterranean is that there's some sufficiently

[00:21:33] deep places there to do this experiment. Is there a reason why you've chosen liquid water rather than

[00:21:38] solid water such as the South Pole neutrino detector which is in... Yeah exactly. So yeah,

[00:21:44] so IceCube is the name of the instrument you're referring to. So that's the one that first

[00:21:48] discovered this sort of high energy flux of neutrinos coming from the universe. So the two

[00:21:53] reasons we've chosen water, one it's just practical. It's there you know when you're building, when

[00:21:58] you're putting a large amount of money into an instrument you have a trade-off between what's

[00:22:02] nearby and the most optimal site ever but the main reason actually is that it turns out that water

[00:22:08] is an excellent medium to do this in because... So the problem with water is that it absorbs more light

[00:22:13] than ice so you want to detect light from these faint neutrinos but light gets absorbed in water

[00:22:18] with a length scale of say 50 meters whereas in ice a photon might bounce around for 200 meters

[00:22:23] before it gets absorbed. However if you ever like stand on top of the snow and look into ice versus

[00:22:28] stand on top of water and look down you see further into water right and this is because

[00:22:34] water doesn't scatter light as much so what this means is when when a neutrino interacts it emits

[00:22:39] the light in a characteristic cone shape right it comes out with a cone with an opening angle

[00:22:43] of about 30 degrees this is Cherenkov radiation. That blue Cherenkov radiation light? Yep, exactly the

[00:22:49] kind of light that we're detecting. This light comes from these particles from high energy

[00:22:54] particles that have been in this case emitted by radioactivity and came through that emitted from

[00:22:59] the interaction of the neutrino and because they're going really fast through the water they emit a

[00:23:03] shock wave just like a supersonic jet emits a shock wave and that shock wave comes across in blue light

[00:23:11] whereas a supersonic jet shock wave comes across in terms of a sharp crack of sound. There's new

[00:23:16] science to be had here. Yes, exactly so the key part about KM3 now is that it's really going for

[00:23:22] a high resolution detector at the end of the day it's going to act like a telescope you're going to

[00:23:26] detect neutrinos you get some idea of how much energy they had but you want to find out where

[00:23:31] they're coming from right this is a big mystery we're trying to solve what's producing these high

[00:23:35] energy neutrinos in the universe there's a lot of ideas but we don't know the answer so in astronomy

[00:23:41] you take a telescope you point it somewhere and you see what you see right what's producing light

[00:23:46] or look at the star however the angular resolution of ice cube i mean it's not bad but it's not that

[00:23:53] great when typically maybe of order a degree or so for the best events or thereabouts and the

[00:23:59] universe is big so when you point back and say oh there's a neutrino that came from this direction

[00:24:03] what's there the answer is all sorts of things because you can't tell with enough precision

[00:24:08] where the neutrino came from so KM3 net's going to have an angular resolution of maybe five to

[00:24:13] ten times an improvement over ice cube and the idea being that you can really detect exactly

[00:24:19] where the neutrinos are coming from and be more definite about their sources better crosses to

[00:24:23] find your target exactly i'm right in thinking neutrinos are the most common substance in the

[00:24:28] universe other than photons well there's also dark matter particles that's what we don't really have

[00:24:34] that's what it's going to come to next and it's possible that neutrinos are well it's not possible

[00:24:39] neutrinos are also being considered as uh or some types of neutrinos that species not yet

[00:24:44] actually discovered are being considered as a possible candidate for dark matter yeah that's

[00:24:48] true so basically there's three let's call them normal types of neutrinos or flavors of neutrinos

[00:24:53] that are part of the standard model of particle physics so we know that these normal neutrinos

[00:24:58] can't be a dark matter they're not a dark matter candidate however there's quite a few different

[00:25:03] theories of what we call you know beyond the standard model particle physics for instance

[00:25:06] there's something called supersymmetry that predicts that for every normal particle we see

[00:25:10] there's something called a supersymmetric partner of that particle i want to go into the exact

[00:25:14] details of this mostly because i am not an expert on it and anything i say will probably be wrong

[00:25:18] however the supersymmetric partner of the neutrino or neutrino which is called is quite likely the

[00:25:25] lightest supersymmetric particle and therefore the easiest to detect so one of the goals that

[00:25:32] mostly what we're doing is detecting high energy astrophysical neutrinos from these sources that

[00:25:37] are detected called the archa detector will be detecting there's another component to km3 net

[00:25:41] which is called orca which will be a similar number of photon detectors but compacted into

[00:25:46] a smaller volume what that's going to be doing is studying a neutrino oscillation so let's say

[00:25:50] a neutrino starts as a muon neutrino it will travel a certain distance and then it might

[00:25:54] be an electron neutrino electron neutrino or can it go from a muon to a tau and then

[00:26:01] from a tau to an electron or does that have to do in a certain sequence or they don't have to

[00:26:04] do a certain sequence however there's a certain probability yeah so there's actually there's

[00:26:10] something called a mixing matrix which tells you how one neutrino that's created with a certain

[00:26:15] flavor and then has a certain energy what the probability of it is to mix into the other

[00:26:21] neutrino flakes and this is dependent upon how far it travels and what its energy is and what

[00:26:26] its initial flavor is one thing that's worthwhile noting though is that we know there's a three

[00:26:30] flavors of neutrinos but we don't know what the heaviest ones are right this is something called

[00:26:35] the neutrino mass hierarchy problem we actually don't know what the heaviest and what the lightest

[00:26:40] kind of neutrinos are so we know the differences in their masses but of course if i tell you that

[00:26:45] the difference between object a and object b is five kilograms you don't know if a or b is heavier

[00:26:51] right you just know the difference and and we know these differences from neutrino oscillations

[00:26:58] so and there's something called the normal hierarchy or the inverted hierarchy which gives

[00:27:03] you two different possible orderings of the masses so this is something that came through

[00:27:07] and it's going to try to resolve through this sort of in this much denser detector called orca and

[00:27:12] that's going to be studying neutrinos at lower energies and it's actually studying neutrinos

[00:27:16] that are produced by the cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere and it's going to try to work out

[00:27:20] the mass ordering you know weighing the masses of the most common particle in the standard model

[00:27:25] i'd say most common technically photons i think are more common but yeah so this is the other goal

[00:27:30] of k-m3 that is the two key science goals of the lower energy what we call atmospheric neutrinos

[00:27:35] because of the cause they come from the cosmic ray interactions with neutrinos in the atmosphere

[00:27:39] and using these neutrinos to understand the mass ordering of neutrinos and if that measurement that

[00:27:45] may turn up something that isn't consistent with the standard model of particle physics right as

[00:27:50] possible we could get hints of the dark matter candidate there and then the other aspect is

[00:27:54] looking at the high energy astrophysical neutrinos where we'll be studying neutrinos from

[00:27:58] these particle collisions in the vicinity of black holes or exploding stars and that's going to tell

[00:28:04] us about the sort of most violent and powerful processes in the universe one of the most

[00:28:09] fascinating things about the explosion of supernova 1987a was that the neutrinos arrived slightly

[00:28:14] before the visible light and that's because the visible light had to travel through all the

[00:28:20] turbulence and and refuse and debris of the supernova explosion itself whereas neutrinos

[00:28:25] being so weakly interactive just traveled in a straight line exactly yeah so it's interesting

[00:28:31] that people think of new of supernova as these optically bright things but actually most of

[00:28:36] the energy in a supernova gets emitted as neutrinos so a supernova is basically a neutrino

[00:28:41] explosion that has this tiny optical signature and i love that because that is exactly the right

[00:28:45] definition one thing worth noting is that the neutrinos that we detected from supernova 1987a

[00:28:52] and the sun are at much lower energies than the neutrinos that km3 net will be studying so the

[00:28:57] lowest energy neutrinos that came through net will be studying are merely a thousand times more

[00:29:01] energetic than the neutrinos we detect from you know the solar neutrinos and the highest energy

[00:29:07] ones will be more like a million times as energetic or perhaps even a billion times as energetic

[00:29:12] actually when i think about it being so far down in the ocean i guess you don't have to worry about

[00:29:16] things like storms and that sort of stuff but what about the uh just the uh the dust and uh

[00:29:22] or some dust is it at work just the um the tight detritus that's uh floating down there at that

[00:29:29] depth is that a problem for the detectors yes so actually there's a whole lot of oceanographic

[00:29:35] physics oceanographic science that i had no idea existed and now do because i'm working with km3

[00:29:42] the other thing to note by the way is that came through and had a predecessor instrument

[00:29:46] antares which is still functioning but it's only about two percent the size of what came

[00:29:50] through net will be so we know exactly how it's going to operate because of our experience with

[00:29:55] this previous instrument so uh in terms of our experience with this thing this this stuff you're

[00:30:02] talking about the detritus one of the official names of this is gelbstoff um so yellow stuff

[00:30:07] in german and this is also known as marine snow so one of the problems is that this sometimes

[00:30:13] accumulates on the top of your light detectors right and will block them what you find though

[00:30:19] is that every every now and then you get stronger undersea currents because there's still currents

[00:30:25] in the ocean even down at two and a half kilometers and so what you can do is you can say well as time

[00:30:30] goes on more and more of this marine snow accumulates on the top of your instruments

[00:30:34] so the light detectors that are facing upwards get a bit less sensitive and a bit less sensitive

[00:30:37] then there's a period where there's a higher oceanographic current it washes the detectors

[00:30:41] clean and then your sensitivity goes up again and then time goes on and it slowly gets less

[00:30:46] sensitive and then there's another high current event and washes it clean so you see all these

[00:30:50] sort of interesting effects in your instrument from the ocean floor here one of the other

[00:30:54] interesting things you do is that you're throwing a detector into the ocean the way it's set up is

[00:30:59] that the optical detectors are held on um on strings these are very long pieces of mostly

[00:31:05] nylon cable let's say 700 meters long and there's current these currents i mentioned will cause

[00:31:11] these strings to sway in the ocean now when you detect this light signature of a neutrino

[00:31:16] you need to know where your detectors were when they detected it so you can reconstruct the direction

[00:31:20] neutrino came from so what you do is you use acoustic pingers and sensors so you have some

[00:31:25] pingers that say go ping from known locations on the seabed and then you have detectors which will

[00:31:29] listen for this and then you can measure it by measuring the distances from the pinger to the

[00:31:33] acoustic receiver you can find out you know where your instrument is so okay that's a technical

[00:31:39] detail the cool thing about this is that it means you hear everything else going on in the ocean

[00:31:44] whale song, shrimps doing... and so you can actually use this yeah you can use this detector

[00:31:50] to track sperm whales and because you've got an array of many many of these receivers there's

[00:31:55] actually ocean science groups that use the data from what to me is just a calibration instrument

[00:32:00] to actually track the feeding patterns of sperm whales and say you know what times a day they're

[00:32:06] feeding because these things can dive down almost a kilometer or more deep into the ocean it's

[00:32:09] amazing so i think it might be even a kilometer and a half or so um to huge depths and what they

[00:32:14] do is when they're hunting squid they have a sonar that pings off the front of the whale and then

[00:32:20] you can also see this ping go forward that you can detect you also get a reflection off the back of

[00:32:24] the whale skull so by measuring the time between the initial sort of while ping if you like and

[00:32:30] the reflection you can get an estimate for the size of the whale so there's all sorts of fascinating

[00:32:35] studies you could do. That's Dr Clancy James from Curtin University and the International Center

[00:32:40] for Radio Astronomy and Research. This is Space Time.

[00:32:48] And time now to take a brief look at some of the other stories making use in science this week

[00:33:04] with the Science Report. New observations have confirmed that April 2024 was the hottest month

[00:33:10] on record and the 11th consecutive month of record heat. The European Union's Copernicus

[00:33:16] Climate Change Service made the observations based on both surface and satellite data which

[00:33:21] confirmed that April 2024 was globally warmer than any previous April dating back to 1940.

[00:33:28] It was also 1.58 degrees Celsius warmer than the estimated average for pre-industrial levels.

[00:33:35] It follows a string of record hot months starting from the hottest June on record last year.

[00:33:40] Global warmings added 1.25 degrees Celsius to global average temperatures since pre-industrial

[00:33:45] times and the El Nino added an additional quarter of a degree on top of that. Overall,

[00:33:51] the data shows that planet Earth is warming by roughly 0.25 degrees Celsius per decade.

[00:33:57] That's up from the way it was warming 25 years ago when it was more like 0.2 degrees Celsius

[00:34:03] per decade. Meanwhile, scientists say the summer of 2023 was overall the warmest in the northern

[00:34:09] hemispheres' tropical regions for the past 2,000 years. A report in the journal Nature reconstructed

[00:34:15] the past 2,000 years of land temperature data based on tree rings and combined this with

[00:34:21] observational measurements of more recent temperature records. They found that the

[00:34:25] summer of 2023 exceeded pre-instrumental average temperatures for the years 1 to 1890 CE by 2.2

[00:34:32] degrees Celsius and was 2.07 degrees Celsius higher in the summer of 2023 than instrumental

[00:34:38] averages between 1850 and 1900 CE. A new study based on 20 years of research has now confirmed

[00:34:47] beyond any reasonable doubt that plant-based foods are better for your health than a meat-based diet.

[00:34:53] The findings reported in the journal PLOS One found that vegetarian and vegan diets are better

[00:34:59] than meaty ones for your heart health and chances of avoiding cancer. The research is based on 48

[00:35:05] individual studies, all of which were conducted since the year 2000. They found that overall,

[00:35:10] vegetarian and vegan diets were strongly linked with reduced risks of heart disease, type 2

[00:35:15] diabetes, cancer and premature death. That's because it resulted in improvements in blood

[00:35:21] pressure and blood sugar management and lower body mass index. Primary plant-based diets were

[00:35:26] linked with reduced risk of heart disease caused by arteries narrowing, gastrointestinal and

[00:35:31] prostate cancer and dying early from heart disease. However, in pregnant women they found

[00:35:36] no benefits of plant-based diets incurring gastrointestinal diabetes or high blood pressure.

[00:35:43] A new study claims that males with low levels of testosterone may have an increased risk of dying

[00:35:49] prematurely. The findings reported in the Journal of the Annals of Internal Medicine follow an

[00:35:54] investigation looking at the relationship between testosterone and other sex hormone levels together

[00:35:59] with health in aging men. The authors reviewed the results of 11 previous studies measuring the sex

[00:36:05] hormones of a total of 24,000 men using the same technique, all following up with participants for

[00:36:11] at least five years. When they reanalyzed all the data together, researchers found men with low

[00:36:16] levels of testosterone concentrations had a higher risk of dying from any cause and men with very low

[00:36:22] testosterone concentrations had a higher risk of dying due to heart problems. There's been yet

[00:36:29] another call for an investigation into the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin. The Shroud

[00:36:34] is believed by some to be the death shroud of Jesus Christ, but multiple scientific studies,

[00:36:40] including carbon dating, have conclusively proven that it was actually created in the 12th century.

[00:36:46] Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics says it's all part of a new film which fails to provide any new

[00:36:52] evidence. Yeah, there's a bit of an industry of documentaries on the Shroud of Turin and book solid

[00:36:57] etc. It's an ongoing debate despite scientific investigations it doesn't seem to go away.

[00:37:03] Now, the Shroud of Turin is a cloth that supposedly shows that was wrapped around

[00:37:09] Jesus after the crucifixion and the story goes that for some reason his image was imprinted on

[00:37:15] the cloth okay and the cloth is now kept in the cathedral in Turin and shown every nth number

[00:37:20] of years, not very often and when it is, you get crowds coming to see it. The trouble is you can't

[00:37:25] see much because it's actually pretty faint and vague but if you take a photo of it and put it

[00:37:30] in negative, you actually see a lot more. Do we have negative photos anymore? I don't know but

[00:37:33] certainly in the old days when you took a photograph, you got a negative and that's when someone said

[00:37:37] oh there's a lot more detail here than we thought. The detail includes, it looks like blood from a

[00:37:43] crown of thorns might have left or caused, not the crown itself. It looks like holes in his hands

[00:37:48] where he would have been crucified which is not the way you were crucified at the time but never

[00:37:51] mind we'll leave that one for the time being and that he has possibly broken arms, he possibly has

[00:37:56] a spear, certainly a hole in his side where the story goes that a Roman soldier speared him which

[00:38:01] is what they used to do to kill someone off rather than just hang around there all the time being

[00:38:05] miserable. Now this story goes that when did this shroud first appear and the church did a bit of

[00:38:10] investigate, Catholic Church did a bit of investigation and found out it was really sort of about medieval

[00:38:14] days 1200 something like that and there are stories about it and some illustrations of it

[00:38:19] having been found or at least displayed and discussed around that time. There's also somewhere

[00:38:24] that there's a record of a word of warning about it saying there's this guy hoisting this shroud

[00:38:28] around as a bit of a tourist thing, a bit of a circus object and it's a fake. Now what it comes

[00:38:33] down to is, is the shroud as we know it a genuine object from the first century CE wrapped around Jesus

[00:38:41] and that shows him his image etc, his whole body image front and back or is it something that was

[00:38:45] made up a thousand years later for a bit of a tourist thing, a bit of a miracle cloth. There's

[00:38:50] been scientific investigations of it over and over and over again. Part of the problem was that at

[00:38:56] one stage the cloth was folded like you'd fold a towel or a sheet and put away and there was a fire

[00:39:02] in the place where it was being stored and some I think silver reliquaries melted onto the cloth

[00:39:08] and where it was folded it got burnt so when you unfold it, you get these little burn marks of

[00:39:13] various places around the whole shroud and they're suggesting that that might have

[00:39:16] impacted on the image. Certainly you can still see the image but you can see these burn bits

[00:39:20] pretty clearly but scientific tests, x-ray, carbon dating which is not crash site for this sort of

[00:39:26] thing but you know looking at the cloth itself, looking at any herbal or you know seeds or any

[00:39:30] residue in the cloth, looking at the historical record where it's been etc. I think it first appeared

[00:39:35] in France somewhere. A group called the Shroud of Turin Research Project had a lot of people

[00:39:40] involved. Some people have complained that some of the, it had dozens of people involved, physicists

[00:39:44] and chemists. This is the one where they took samples to different universities? That's right,

[00:39:49] at least three different universities I think to try and get carbon dating and they all came

[00:39:52] back the same or pretty close to each other as much as you can get an accuracy of carbon dating

[00:39:56] for something that old and they all came back with it being about 1200 roughly around there

[00:40:01] suggesting that the shroud is not an ancient bit of material that would have been around at the

[00:40:04] time of Jesus. It is a bit of material that was woven in 1200 and therefore the image,

[00:40:09] the suggestion therefore is the image dates from the same time. So that was the agreement that

[00:40:13] came into there. Now people are saying oh well we can't trust them. Someone is suggesting in

[00:40:16] a recent article, a recent documentary that's coming out about the shroud that you can't trust

[00:40:21] because some of the scientists were agnostics. You think well some of them were scientists.

[00:40:25] I mean which way? You only trust… One would sort of hope they were agnostics.

[00:40:29] Hope they were, yeah. You'd hope you get a mixture right of some people who were agnostics.

[00:40:33] You want someone who's not going to be biased in their reporting,

[00:40:35] in whether they carry out their study. That's exactly right and this documentary

[00:40:39] thinks only an agnostic would be biased against the shroud. Obviously those who are

[00:40:43] religious people are not going to be biased. No, they wouldn't care. An agnostic wouldn't care.

[00:40:46] That's right. Well it might be a bit sort of antagonistic to it but really if you're

[00:40:51] agnostic rather than atheist say… Exactly.

[00:40:56] …to be more equanimity. But anyway this has been going on and on and on for ages and supposedly

[00:41:00] finding new evidence. These keep popping up. There's been others that have been investigating

[00:41:03] it over the years, various things and some came back saying oh it is a real cloth or

[00:41:08] but the image is not new. It's not as old as the cloth or that cloth is not ancient,

[00:41:14] it's a thousand years old etc. etc. And it's a messy area especially if the church doesn't

[00:41:18] really like putting it out for everybody and their dog coming and taking a snip of it.

[00:41:22] Now look I'll tell you what, if it was real it'd be a pretty weird looking person to start with

[00:41:28] wouldn't he? Yes. It's a very elongated image. The arms, the forearms in particular look too long.

[00:41:35] The way it's sort of draped doesn't almost… there's two aspects. Some say someone created

[00:41:40] a statue or a carving of a man lying down, put a cloth over it, did a rubbing as you can do on

[00:41:45] church tombs and that sort of stuff. Did a rubbing with some sort of material, with some sort of

[00:41:49] chemical and did it both sides, turned him over, flipped him over, put the shroud. The shroud is

[00:41:53] in one long piece that goes from the head down to the toes and then back up again up the back. So

[00:41:58] the suggestion is that he was using a carving or an actual person, he didn't mind sitting there

[00:42:03] and being messed around with and that's so therefore some of the elongation and some of

[00:42:06] the weird things that because of the distortion from the way the cloth was draped over the

[00:42:10] person or the statue. Others would say that because the cloth is supposed… the image on the cloth is

[00:42:15] supposedly a discharge when Jesus was resurrected which is sort of the suggestion that it was,

[00:42:21] and suddenly get this image implanted on the cloth that that should be more accurate as to

[00:42:26] a physical person. I mentioned before about the holes in the hands, people who are crucified

[00:42:31] normally and crucifixion was fairly common in those days. You see Spartacus, everyone gets

[00:42:35] crucified at the end of Spartacus, that was a fairly common punishment.

[00:42:38] I'm Spartacus! No, I'm Spartacus! No, I'm Spartacus and so is my wife!

[00:42:44] The crucifixion you'd normally be tied up, rope around your arms and tied to a cross.

[00:42:49] That's nailing someone to a cross, that was certainly not common I don't think but if you're

[00:42:54] going to nail someone to a cross you have to do it through the wrist. If you do it through the hand,

[00:42:58] the palm of the hand unfortunately it tears straight through between your fingers or you

[00:43:02] pulled off, that's a bit nasty because your weight is leaning forward and your hand pulls straight,

[00:43:07] the nail goes straight through your hand or it comes out between the fingers etc.

[00:43:11] This is even nastier. You put it through the wrist and then the nail can't move because it's stopped

[00:43:15] by the hand bones, right? So the wrist is a bit of a place, if you're going to nail someone to a cross

[00:43:18] you do it through the wrist. As for nailing their feet, half the time their feet was on a platform,

[00:43:22] other times they wasn't. The way you died generally was that you suffocated because your arms are up

[00:43:27] and don't try hanging up on your arms for too long. It's not good for your chest, not good for your

[00:43:31] lungs and therefore after a few hours the person might be sort of suffering and which is when the

[00:43:36] soldier comes along and sticks a spear in your side to basically hurry things along. Now Jesus

[00:43:40] was supposed to be up there for a long time, they put him down alive, buried him in a cave,

[00:43:45] rolled the rock, unrolled the rock, he's not there etc but the shroud still works. So this is a story

[00:43:49] that's been going on for a long long time. It's interesting, it's romantic but apparently

[00:43:52] scientifically it doesn't hold up that well. But for the religious people they believe it.

[00:43:57] That's Tim Endam from Australian Skeptics.

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